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Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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And then you realize all the web sites are optimized for chrome and you have problems using other browsers

google maps is the only site that just didn't work

Out of the ones that you use, maybe (I've actually never had a problem with Google Maps). There are several applications that I have to use for work that either don't work on Firefox or have limited functionality, Slack being one of them (huddles only work in Chromium or in the Electron app).

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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As a proxy extension developer, this is absolutely maddening. We're forced to choose between auth-less open proxies (bad), or baking in a wacky authentication scheme through a side channel (also bad). MV3 drops in 2.5 months, and will leave tens of millions of proxy extension users unable to use products they paid money for. This is all on top of the many other issues with MV3 that Google is pushing under the guise o…

Have any of the Chromium forks committed to maintain MV2 into the future? Having functioning extensions while maintaining the other features that people like from the browser could help pull some marketshare from Google Chrome. Probably just dreaming though...

None that I'm aware of but Firefox has committed to maintaining the more powerful MV2 content blocking APIs that Google is removing.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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If there is one group of people I will never feel bad for, it's the VPN / proxy vendors. They've been doing false advertising for years on every channel, making consumers pay for absolutely useless products.

There are many legitimate use cases of VPN's. Also there are many VPN companies that don't do false advertising such as Windscribe, mullvad or iVPN.

> There are many legitimate use cases of VPN's

Yes of course, but that probably represents less than 10% of the customers (I'm being extremely generous on purpose, it's probably 0.1%) of your usual NordVPN and co.

> don't do false advertising such as Windscribe

"Stop tracking and browse privately" and "block annoying advertisers from stalking you online" proves you wrong. VPNs don't stop trackers.

> don't do false advertising such as Mullvad

"Evade hackers and trackers". Sure.

> don't do false advertising such as iVPN

Hey looks good actually, they indeed don't claim to block trackers or anything else, just change your IP / geolocation.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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It's cases such as these invalidate the "they're not acting with malice". Thousands of google employees see this stuff, and are clearly being told they can't talk about it.

You haven't applied Hanlon's Razor properly. They're just coordinating incompetence that they find beneficial, not being malicious.

If you are coordinating the incompetence then you are malicious even if the incompetent are not.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Can someone ELI5 what are proxy extensions? What are they supposed to do?

I use a HTTP/HTTPS proxy in Chrome (and Firefox) to work remotely and access internal things from my work network. The proxy I use has very nice features to allow "auto switching", meaning based on an regex I can use the proxy or go direct. The rules are ordered any way you want them.

The proxy we all use at work is SwitchyOmega. Been using it for years and it's fantastic.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Someone warned years ago that proxy extensions would no longer be feasible on Chromium? I must have missed that message.

I'm more interested why it isn't possible to just fork the thing and maintain a version that's plugin enabled. Isn't Chromium completely open source? Especially for Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, etc.

In addition to what others said, forks are not allowed to use Google services such as Chrome Sync or Translate.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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There are many legitimate use cases of VPN's. Also there are many VPN companies that don't do false advertising such as Windscribe, mullvad or iVPN.

> There are many legitimate use cases of VPN's Yes of course, but that probably represents less than 10% of the customers (I'm being extremely generous on purpose, it's probably 0.1%) of your usual NordVPN and co. > don't do false advertising such as Windscribe "Stop tracking and browse privately" and "block annoying advertisers from stalking you online" proves you wrong. VPNs don't stop trackers. > don't do false ad…

> Yes of course, but that probably represents less than 10% of the customers.

Lol how did you come up with 10%? Did you just make it up?

> VPNs don't stop trackers.

Windscribe (and other VPN's) can block trackers. https://blog.windscribe.com/how-r-o-b-e-r-t-works-76d6274460...

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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So.. Chrome is too big to fork. Then why don't we make a bare-bones OSS no-DRM browser with only a subset of JS and CSS and promote at the same time an old-school webring of 'virtous' websites.

If it catches on (and it could since it'd be free and fast), maybe some big sites would evolve to advertise themselves as 'virtous'.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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I'm more interested why it isn't possible to just fork the thing and maintain a version that's plugin enabled. Isn't Chromium completely open source? Especially for Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, etc.

>Isn't Chromium completely open source? No, especially not if you want to watch videos, the DRM plugin is a binary blob that only Google approved browsers get to run. Then there are all the Google services that will break in unexpected ways in your browser, sometimes just because your user agent isn't identical to Chromes if past reports from Firefox users are any indication. Basically expect to be shit on by the big…

Firefox supports all DRM content I have come across, clearly there are ways to implement DRM that don't involve Google.
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