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YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by smegsicle »

smeagull wrote: post #62
probably_wrong wrote: post #24

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The moment they mention a sponsor I hit right arrow.

i like how electroboom has a screen effect while he's doing the sponsor, so you can see where to skip

very classy, more channels should do this

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Post by zwily »

Veserv wrote: post #78
rtpg wrote: post #59

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You’re “sure”? I mean it’s kinda the whole point of the product, and from what has been said in trade articles the revenue from premium is much higher than the ad revenue it’s replacing. People of course do stupid things, but the information I saw made it sound like there’s no question, premium is better for Youtube

Well if that is the point then Youtube can just make a public, legally binding, unrevokable declaration that they will never insert ads into Youtube Premium. Since they are not going to do it, they lose nothing and their customers get a legally binding assurance. Problem solved.

Why would they do that? You pay for YouTube Premium monthly. If they put in ads, you cancel. Simple enough.

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Post by kmsn »

dmatech wrote: post #68
demindiro wrote: post #49

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> Google offers an ad-free paid experience I wonder how long that will last.

Twitch did this a few years ago. Amazon Prime used to give you ad-free viewing, but they ended that. I believe the reason was so they could grow their ad business. Likewise, If too many people buy Premium, they won't be able to sell as many ad spots. Plus, the people who actually pay for Premium probably make heavy use of YouTube. My guess is that they'll instead start increasing the price of Premium to get more peop…

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Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by missedthecue »

mccorrinall wrote: post #51
ssharp wrote: post #34

The solution to this is $11.99 a month. The way consumers value things is insane to me. People will fork over $12 on DoorDash delivery fees, an overpriced drink, a coffee, etc. but to remove ads for access to an enormous vault of content that provides endless value, NEVER!!!

And at 12$ a month I still have to watch through all these 1min long sponsored segments. YouTube without sponsorblock became unusable. For iOS I recommend uYouPlus: https://github.com/qnblackcat/uYouPlus

These sponsorships really only took off in the past 5 years as adblock soared in popularity. There may be a causal factor there.

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Post by throwaway675309 »

db48x wrote: post #20
silvertaza wrote: post #6

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It's probably apt to ask yourself what sort of revenue model you prefer to support for the value provided. YouTube is a rare case where they offer multiple options.

Meh. Most videos on the web are crap. Having advertising makes some kinds of crap worse. And even if all advertising revenue went away, enthusiasts will always post videos for fun. In fact most videos don’t earn any significant advertising revenue. Personally advertising is a high cost to myself that I am not willing to pay. I even avoid restaurants that have televisions, or that play a radio station instead of buyin…

People who have native sponsors inside their uploads are usually attempting to derive a significant amount of their living income through their videos, and if they're on sponsor block that means they've attracted enough viewership that this is doubly so.

It's fine if you want to deprive them of their livelihood which affords them the ability to make professional and polished videos but don't kid yourself about your motivations. And speaking as an amateur videographer, it takes an enormous amount of time and work to be able to make even a short 20 to 30 minute video.

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

zwily wrote: post #82
Veserv wrote: post #78

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Well if that is the point then Youtube can just make a public, legally binding, unrevokable declaration that they will never insert ads into Youtube Premium. Since they are not going to do it, they lose nothing and their customers get a legally binding assurance. Problem solved.

Why would they do that? You pay for YouTube Premium monthly. If they put in ads, you cancel. Simple enough.

You're right for now. Once upon a time people started paying for cable, and the ads went away there too! (For a while...)

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Post by tacotacotaco »

Aachen wrote: post #26
nomel wrote: post #22

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An alternative is, of course, YouTube Premium. Their pricing always seemed very high to me, but now I wonder if it was meant to be in the context of this number of ads.

Yeah I realized that I should add why that seems even worse to me, so I edited that in. To elaborate a little, I pay for Spotify, Netflix, F-Droid, OsmAnd, Simple Mobile Tools, FairEmail, K9, Internet Archive, and other software and services I use.... independent companies and creators that don't already track me to hell. Giving money to google would be out of necessity, not to help them strengthen their position if…

This. If YouTube were independent I would also be inclined to buy Premium. I already pay for several other streaming services. I do not want Google tracking my viewing habits (you must log in to use Premium) just so they can sell targeted ads via their other properties.

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Post by UpstandingUser »

impulser_ wrote: post #13
Nas808 wrote: post #4

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That works well on a desktop browser, but the YouTube ads are still a problem on iOS and other platforms like smart TVS, Roku or Chromecast/Google TV.

You could just buy YouTube premium. Cancel Spotify, buy YouTube premium. Get both ad free videos and music on the same platform.

Or I could rip my legally purchased* CDs and give the finger to the leeches and rent seekers that fuck us almost as hard as they do the artists. Yes I support corporate genocide.

* lol

Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by soulofmischief »

gaius_baltar wrote: post #64
kelnos wrote: post #9

Then pay for YT Premium so you don't have ads. Look, I hate ads. I really do. You can pry uBlock Origin from my cold, dead fingers. But the thing is, sites and creators and whatnot still often choose ads as a way to fund the things they create. If they're pushing ads at you over a medium where you have control (there's a reason why a web browser is a "user agent"), then I think you totally have the right to choose wh…

> Then pay for YT Premium so you don't have ads. Nope. YT Premium only makes the problem worse by requiring you to log in using an account that is tied to your real world identity and was used for payment processing. You just end up giving more data points to Google to track you, cross-reference with other sources and shove more ads in other platforms, still get native ads, and Google can just add their own ads later…

Long live NewPipe
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