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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.

I have AdGuard installed for Safari on my phone and it seems to do fine. Also have a pihole on home network (which unfortunately due to the router I can’t block ipv6 traffic but whatever is left going via ipv4 is at least blocked)

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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post #30

I feel like they're just dying to figure out a way to get rid of extensions on desktop as well. Soon enough they'll figure out a way to rationalize them away.

Who wants to be that 'for your safety and convenience' will be part of the press release?

manifest v3: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/intro/

> Manifest V3 is part of a shift in the philosophy behind how we approach end-user security and privacy.

it requrires you to declaratively specify what to block in advance, so it's going to be pretty easy to write some logic that can't be declaratively specified

I suspect killing the adblockers is the entire reason behind it

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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post #56

Going on a tangent, how is the adblocking story on iOS? As there is not Firefox+uBlock available, is it possible to block ads via VPN or DNS?

> is it possible to block ads via VPN 1Blocker¹ does it. It’s the “Firewall” section of the iOS app. ¹ https://1blocker.com

How do these VPN adblocking setups work with Tailscale and other VPNs?

I already have issues with Tailscale and NextDNS, I doubt this will make it any easier.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#85
post #33

Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

Same here, but also using private browsing mode only. Plus the YouTube Vanced app (including YouTube Music) to be rid of the ads there. I try not to use apps where there's a website equivalent, but I also repackaged a couple of them that I like to rid them of the ads, using apktool. My mobile experience is blissfully ad-free. It's a delight and I would never go back to the default experience.

Apparently Vanced has been C&D'd so it's only a matter of time before the API changes and it dies.

Unsure if there's been a development since then.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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post #4

Pi-hole + PiVpn works wonderful (if you can find a rpi that is... ). Been using that setup for a couple of years, very stable.

> if you can find a rpi that is... I'm out of the loop, is there a rpi shortage?

Kinda the same way that there was a GPU shortage up until recently. You can go out and order an rPi now and it will get delivered within a week, but the markup is insane. It's basically impossible to find any Pi hardware at MSRP.

Chips in general are still experiencing supply chain issues too, so this is unlikely to change.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.

Even without the ads, you still have multiple cookie popups and banners, floating videos and newsletter notifications to closes before getting to the content. And of course as you scroll down some of those come back (floating videos in particular). There was a time where you could just close the tab if it was that bad, but now pretty much all websites are like this so there's no choice.

Yeah, lots of junk is added today, not just ads. I can't find the link right now but I'm sure I saw a couple years ago (probably linked here) an article showing that over half of the data traffic is either ads or junk that wastes bandwidth, which isn't flat on mobile.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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post #71
post #17

The internet is basically unusable on a phone without an adblocker. This is a bad move from Google and will be on a lot of people's minds when they're thinking about their next flagship. "Hmm, an Android? Ah but Google's #1 goal is to make sure you're staring at terrible internet ads at all times..." Having said that, Kiwi Browser on Android still seems safe. You probably have a different browser anyway, now that Chr…

I had my son on an amazon android tablet the other weekend. Internet access disabled using parental controls. And by the end of that weekend, the tabs that I found opened on the default browser was crazy. All from clicking ads in various apps, auto-play videos, and what not. Ads for viagra, credit cards, home loan applications, other loans, mobile subscription content, etc. Luckily internet access was off so none of…

Assuming you're in the US, if this is really happening, you need to take screenshots of the inappropriate ads, document the experience and send it to your congressman and senator. Go to the local office and speak with the staffers. They need to see and hear from their constituents having this awful experience for there to be any change.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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post #59
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with Firefox Focus as a Safari content blocker? I barely see ads on my iPhone and websites breaking because I have an ad blocker is more common than seeing ads.

I've never knowingly encountered a website breaking because I have an adblocker, but I've being running adblockers of one sort or another for about as long as there's been ads on the web - so maybe there's just features I don't know I should experience. Can you give an example of a website that breaks with an adblocker? (Please describe what breaks as well. Otherwise I might not notice it.)

Cannot give specific site of hand but for me its SPA sites and the page is just blank.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#90
post #12

Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

Likewise for NextDNS as Androids Private DNS. This combination of Firefox+uBlock and NextDNS+Private DNS makes Android a pleasurable experience.

My only problem with NextDNS is the youtube ads, but that's kinda unavoidable. Otherwise works flawlessly.
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