fly.io is better anyway. Its a real shame how far salesforce dropped the ball on heroku
Removal of Heroku free product plans
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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#82So their next chapter is obscurity followed by shutting down? It was clear even before their horribly bungled GitHub security incident that Heroku was on life support at best and it's been a long time since "Heroku" was the answer to "What PaaS should I use?". The beancounters took control a while back and are sucking all they can out of it before they discard it's empty shell. Having Heroku as your PaaS provider see…
We are not shutting it down. As I said in the blog, our priority is making sure that Heroku choice is a good business decision for critical apps of all sizes. This does have tradeoffs, but getting the rug pulled out is not one of them - the opposite.
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#83This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…
Why do you think nobody has been able to fully emulate this experience? It seems to me like there’d be a big market for an identical feature by feature Heroku “clone” with a more dedicated (from the outside looking in) team. No more features, no less, just exactly what Heroku did but without the intent to shut down. What’s preventing that from existing?
Installing Dokku [0] is pretty easy on a VPS, and ergonomically it's felt a lot like (a cheaper) Heroku to me (although I only ever used the free apps). I just use the Heroku docs to create apps I can run on Dokku.
Now, you need to deploy Dokku so I get how the two are dissimilar, but I wonder what it would look like for a company to try to offer managed dokku instances (perhaps this is already a thing?).
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#84Speaking as a pure hobbyist with no formal background in programming or computer science, I've learned a ton playing around with free Heroku dynos. That "holy shit, it worked" feeling is a hell of a drug. My proudest achievement so far is a dumb-as-rocks little Clojure program that runs on a schedule in a free Heroku dyno. It sends alerts to a Slack channel when there's updates to a Trello board we use at work. All i…
Well, it's worth asking, how long something like this could remain free. Even that six or seven seconds costs somebody something.
Salesforce reported an almost $20B profit last year. They can afford it to buy developer goodwill.
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#85We pay Heroku thousands of dollars a month for our Staging and Production environments, and one of the reasons we chose them is that we can spin up a toy widget or proof of concept in seconds for free: we probably do a few of those a day, play around with them for a few days or weeks, and then kill them.
Now that these toys aren't free, I would guess likely to move them to AWS or GCP (since they're likely to be cheaper), and at that point we might as well migrate the rest of our stuff as well. It's not just goodwill that Heroku generated from this, it's actual revenue.
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#86An important detail: If you have a free PostgreSQL database running on Heroku it will be deleted three months from today. You'd better be paying attention to their emails! I think this is a particularly tough part of this. Heroku: please consider instead stashing a backup of that data somewhere, so that users who wake up on November 29th and find that their application has vanished can sign in and at least recover th…
For small enough DBs, they could even literally just email you the data zipped up as an attachment. I'd guess most hobby projects are a few MB if that.
That said, I don't really get the feeling that Heroku is willing to put an ounce of extra effort into this, unfortunately.
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#87No hate toward heroku whatsoever, but have a feeling this decision will get reversed in 5 days
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#88This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…
In our case, this would mean increasing our Heroku bill by 400% (we run a few paid apps and >40 free dynos with super low monthly activity)
Does anyone have a recommendation how to re-create the Heroku experience on AWS or Azure?
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#89Speaking as a pure hobbyist with no formal background in programming or computer science, I've learned a ton playing around with free Heroku dynos. That "holy shit, it worked" feeling is a hell of a drug. My proudest achievement so far is a dumb-as-rocks little Clojure program that runs on a schedule in a free Heroku dyno. It sends alerts to a Slack channel when there's updates to a Trello board we use at work. All i…
Well, it's worth asking, how long something like this could remain free. Even that six or seven seconds costs somebody something.
Its costs something, yes - but the fact that effectively the entire professional development community is well aware of Heroku's offerings, have had good experiences with them, and most have direct knowledge of how it all works is also worth something.
I'd wager that's worth significantly more than the few seconds of compute most of us have gotten in exchange.
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#90Good riddance! Should say: Heroku definitely busted my interest in web dev and "git-push-deploy" magic. Just develop a simple app, put it on Heroku and it's alive! That was so cool in good old days! Thanks for the memories.