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It's shocking to me that people are willing to pay to be beta testers for Tesla's entirely-from-scratch manufacturing process and smartphone-with-wheels style of car experience but it doesn't matter what I think - that's the beauty of capitalism.
Rent it for a few days and you will see
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Admitted? The difference between L2 and L5 is liability, it is not a metric of how capable the system is.
> Admitted? Yes. Admitted . [0] > The difference between L2 and L5 is liability. Everyone from the regulators to Musk himself have known that for years that it is more than just liability and none of the claims of achieving 'Level 5' FSD and the hype around the robotaxis have ever materialized with many customers falling for the scam lead by the pied piper (Musk) and once again increased prices on a broken product. […
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I think the skepticism is reasonable, but that’s not really what my comment is about.
Are these outside "engineering and design" reviews from a big conflicted youtuber stockholder guy (Sandy Munroe)?
I wouldn’t have an issue with this if the upgrade went with the car, but the idea that it turns back off when the person whose driveway it lives in changes is too close to IAPs for me. If it has an ongoing cost for Tesla, I’m happy to pay for a subscription and perhaps an activation fee. If it’s built-in to the vehicle and requires a configuration for how I like to drive, I’d love to pay an expensive, one-time setup…
They do have a subscription based model https://www.tesla.com/support/full-self-driving-subscription...
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Musk once argued that once full self-driving works, it would be more profitable for Tesla to use these cars for an own taxi service than it would be to sell them to customers. They plan to raise the price even more the closer they (claim to) get to their goal.
I don’t understand that endgame. I would never want strangers in my car unsupervised. They will be having sex, puking, changing diapers, and worse. Just imagine all of the fluids and smells that they would leave behind. How is this remotely a good idea?
I recently rented a 2022 Model 3 from Hertz for 9 days. It didn't have the FSD option available, but it did have the preview of what the system would see. Based on that alone, I was alternately impressed and terrified of what the FSD experience would be like. It was mostly accurate in showing other vehicles, but some of their trajectories when turning in front of me looked like a really bad video game with weird orie…
To save you the click, here's one released today with the latest version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCTssX2VdKA
I wouldn’t have an issue with this if the upgrade went with the car, but the idea that it turns back off when the person whose driveway it lives in changes is too close to IAPs for me. If it has an ongoing cost for Tesla, I’m happy to pay for a subscription and perhaps an activation fee. If it’s built-in to the vehicle and requires a configuration for how I like to drive, I’d love to pay an expensive, one-time setup…
>If it has an ongoing cost for Tesla, I’m happy to pay for a subscription and perhaps an activation fee They do have a subscription based model https://www.tesla.com/support/full-self-driving-subscription...
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Are these outside "engineering and design" reviews from a big conflicted youtuber stockholder guy (Sandy Munroe)?
Yes, that’s one of them. What evidence do you have that he has a conflict of interest or is a shareholder?
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Yes, that’s one of them. What evidence do you have that he has a conflict of interest or is a shareholder?
Reasonable skepticism based on the facts presented.
Sure, be skeptical, but then maybe say something like "I have no evidence for this, but I believe his manifest enthusiasm can only be explained by the fact that he's trying to manipulate the stock price to his own benefit."
Sure, it sounds less rhetorically convenient, but it's more honest.
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It would seem the market (and more current engineering and design reviews) disagrees with you!
It's shocking to me that people are willing to pay to be beta testers for Tesla's entirely-from-scratch manufacturing process and smartphone-with-wheels style of car experience but it doesn't matter what I think - that's the beauty of capitalism.