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.NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

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Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#81
post #34

Meh. In the end, Microsoft will betray those who trusted it. Long term, better just to pretend it does not exist and never, ever depend on anything with Microsoft name on it.

Millions of businesses run on Microsoft platforms and software developed on/for Microsoft platforms for decades. I think you are painting darker picture than it really is.

Or please elaborate a little what you mean by "betraying".

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#82

Seems like great news but I wonder if these releases help the .NET ecosystem in a meaningful anyway. Almost all .NET developers I know still use Windows even on cloud.

I work in games so it's Unity C# (which uses a Mono port but .net 6 'soon') and a backend that uses .net in a linux container. Using C# on both makes it easier for devs to work full stack. It's been easy to run the backend app in k8s.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#83
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For most businesses with less than a hundred instances, the cost is negligible and probably is cheaper than the companies Slack bill.

Windows server licenses[1]!? Even looking at EC2 it's nearly 3x more expensive to run Windows than Linux, at a glance[2]. [1]: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/pricing?rtc=1 [2]: https://parquantix.com/linux-windows-aws-cost-comparison/

Yes, still irrelevant. The only people that seem to complain about the cost are people not actually responsible signing off on invoices. Compared to the many other costs a company is spending money on, it's unlikely the MS expenses will even show up in a budget review unless you're really screwed the pooch.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#84

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I just jumped on the .NET Core gravy train after 6+ years of Ruby on Rails development. I feel so productive and confident working with .NET. Ill be riding this rollercoaster with you for a while!

Technically it isn't .net core anymore, but just .net. The many different versions were quite confusing. I am happy that they are now unified.

Old .net has become ".net framework".

I'm just glad the number-space has been sorted out. It was annoying to learn that ".NET 2", ".NET Standard 2" and ".NET Core 2" are very different things.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#85

Seems like great news but I wonder if these releases help the .NET ecosystem in a meaningful anyway. Almost all .NET developers I know still use Windows even on cloud.

I've moved Windows Server into contained status at my organization and will not accept new software that required a Windows Server to run.

If you plan on shipping server software, I expect it to run on Linux, particularly in a container.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#86
post #56
post #2

It has been rumored for years that Microsoft might acquire Ubuntu. This is an interesting move though not proof of any such future merger. All of that said, it would be nice if Microsoft had the same level of cooperation with Fedora and another distro or two as well. (And where the hell is support for .NET Core on FreeBSD???)

> Microsoft might acquire Ubuntu That would make a lot of sense, despite the backlash it would generate. Remember when they acquired GitHub, developers were vouching to move over to GitLab. Yet very few did. The same would probably happen if they acquire Ubuntu. Developers would vouch to move to another distribution, yet few will, because Ubuntu is so much nicer to use than the competition.

I'll be one of the few. Maybe I'll give a try to Debian but probably I'll end up using one of the Ubuntu replacement distroes that will popup. Or Pop!_OS outright.

I'll never trust Microsoft again after all they did in the 2000s. Transitively, I'll never trust any comparably sized company.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#87

Seems like great news but I wonder if these releases help the .NET ecosystem in a meaningful anyway. Almost all .NET developers I know still use Windows even on cloud.

I was talking with a Microsoft employee that works in azure. Something like 60% of their VMs are Linux.

How much of that 60% is running .NET apps, though?

Not everyone who uses Azure is a "Microsoft shop", in terms of programming tech stack. Plenty of people use Azure as a cross-cloud redundancy play, or because they do business with Amazon competitors that refuse to have their data on AWS.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#88
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically it isn't .net core anymore, but just .net. The many different versions were quite confusing. I am happy that they are now unified.

Old .net has become ".net framework". I'm just glad the number-space has been sorted out. It was annoying to learn that ".NET 2", ".NET Standard 2" and ".NET Core 2" are very different things.

> Old .net has become ".net framework".

From my understanding, thats not quite right. AFAIK framework was adapted to differentiate it from standard, core and mono.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#89
post #34

Meh. In the end, Microsoft will betray those who trusted it. Long term, better just to pretend it does not exist and never, ever depend on anything with Microsoft name on it.

I knew there'd be at least one of you guys in this thread.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

#90
post #46

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Does visual studio run on linux yet? That's my rubicon for taking .net seriously. It's not just about the runtime, the tooling has to be present as well.

JetBrains Rider on Ubuntu/Mac is probably a better development experience than Visual Studio on Windows.

As long as it's not a desktop application that requires WPF.
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