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Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

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This is being posted just a day after this tweet: https://twitter.com/allenholub/status/1555324387087097856 I really wonder what it's like inside Gitlab. The product ticks all the boxes you'd want it to, but the user experience just resonates with sadness and misery.

To be fair ... they got a lot of middle management catch phrases into that description. Going to be an easy sell to the board.

There’s something telling about companies that put sales over common sense.

Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woah, that tweet led me to: "GitLab plans to automatically delete projects if they've been inactive for a year and are owned by users of its free tier." Which I hadn't heard. That's.... something.

If I'm not mistaken they rolled this idea back real quick once it leaked and everyone got mad.

I may not leave a legacy but I'll know that a TODO app I wrote is in an arctic vault.

Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woah, that tweet led me to: "GitLab plans to automatically delete projects if they've been inactive for a year and are owned by users of its free tier." Which I hadn't heard. That's.... something.

If I'm not mistaken they rolled this idea back real quick once it leaked and everyone got mad.

It looks like they only announced it yesterday... and yes have already rolled it back?

But for... "Now makes vague pledge to shove inactive repos into slow object storage."

Not sure what that means. If the project isn't still available at the web and git URL it always was, that's a problem for open source.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/05/gitlab_reverses_delet...

It's kind of shocking to me that they didn't realize how it would upset people, makes me think they are a bit disconnected.

OK, here's the HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32350180

Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

#84
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Seems weird to harp on the cost of a windows license when they're buying Mac OS licenses instead (although hidden in the device's prie).

I had to look again and might have missed it, but I didn’t see where Gitlab expressed concerns about the cost of Windows Professional version. They had concerns with team members sourcing they’re own Windows laptops which would traditionally come with Home Edition and need to be upgraded adding to the IT overhead. Where were the cost concerns on buying windows licenses?

> To approve the use of Windows, GitLab would have to purchase Windows Professional licenses

Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

#85
I run docker desktop on my windows machine which I have setup for k8s and have gitlab running as a helm deployment. What's wrong with having windows but using WSL for dev work. That's how most of my flow works, I installed gitlab this way because I want to learn its cicd stuff without having to rely on the work instance or gitlab.com. I prefer selfhosting.

Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

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I mean, Gitlab is a web platform. It's pretty easy to test how it's going to work on different platforms without needing full machines. Heck, you can even just get Microsoft Edge binaries on macOS and Linux if you want to test Edge. But failing that, VMs are pretty sufficient.

Tell that to the FE devs who add `overflow: scroll` everywhere and don't spot the problem...

I agree with this nitpick. Unfortunately, I think we are losing that battle, because more platforms are adopting the hidden scrollbar (anti-)pattern.

That, however, is bound to happen even if you have Windows workstations. It happened at a job where I was, in fact, running Windows, because the designer ran macOS and was oblivious to this issue. (Of course, I would fix it when spotted. But it still managed to make it out to prod at times.)

Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

#87
Same for me

How i use windows (when i REALLY need it, it's rare nowadays):

- in a VM, behind a firewall, with a linux host

I maintain a minimal image, and i copy it whenever i use it, and i throw it once i finish using the VM

And you can even play your favorite games using that technique, KVM/GPU passthrough to the rescue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7SG7ccjn-g

Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

#88

I'm no fan of Windows myself, but I find this a fairly bad policy. If nothing else - what's not used is not tested. And if you expect any real population of users to be using Windows machines with your products, you should have developers/PMs/QA/support interacting with your products using Windows machines. I see this as: We're saving a bit of money and making ITs life easier, and in exchange users will get a worse p…

Testing for Windows on a non-Windows machine is far easier than testing for macOS on a non-macOS machine. Of course, having people use both is better. IIRC, Steve Klabnik uses Windows to ensure that Rust supports the platform well.

Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

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I am curious about the M1 max for the top performing configuration, wonder if there is a business need for it over an M1 pro with the same storage and memory. Especially since they are mentioning the few hundred dollars a windows pro licence would cost as a reason not to get windows laptops.

I bought an M1 Max for the extra displays support, and the 64gb RAM support. Not that I need 64g, that was more because I found a decent deal on one that happened to be 64g. But I sure don’t complain about it :)

>Not that I need 64g,

Blasphemy!! I hope you got out of the way of the lightning bolt that surely came to strike you down for such preposterous speach! That's like saying "I don't need that 4TB SSD, 512GB is plenty"

Re: Microsoft Windows is prohibited at Gitlab

#90
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This is being posted just a day after this tweet: https://twitter.com/allenholub/status/1555324387087097856 I really wonder what it's like inside Gitlab. The product ticks all the boxes you'd want it to, but the user experience just resonates with sadness and misery.

Did you ever use it? I have, extensively, and found the user experience excellent. Still miss it now I'm using github plus a bunch of other tools.

I did. I never saw any reason to prefer it over Github, which has a nicer, faster interface. Really what I want is an open source Github.
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