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Re: Spain bans setting the AC below 27 degrees Celsius

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Post by hgazx »

gambiting wrote: post #78
hgazx wrote: post #76

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The fact that we don’t have as much freedom as we should means we have carte blanche to keep taking freedom away from us? What an argument. A self fulfilling prophecy! Yes we should have the freedom to keep our lights on if we want as long as we pay our bills. And if we want we shouldn’t have to build a ramp to our business. How are these things even something to argue about?

>>And if we want we shouldn’t have to build a ramp to our business. Are you serious? How is this even a thing to argue about??? >>Yes we should have the freedom to keep our lights on if we want as long as we pay our bills. Even in an energy crisis? I imagine when you are faced with severe drought you also argue that you should be able to use as much water as you want as long as you pay your bills? What an argument. I…

This energy crisis is a self inflicted wound- people here have consistently voted for candidates that have refused to build nuclear, have put CO2 caps in place, have made enemies of everybody who could sell us gas, etc. They deserve everything that is coming to them. I have absolutely no sympathy for the prices that they are having to pay.

Re: Spain bans setting the AC below 27 degrees Celsius

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Post by peterbraden »

mantas wrote: post #46
robobro wrote: post #36

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10 is cool, 20 is not. 30 is warm, 40 is hot! Body temp 37c. 20c = 68f (room temp) 30c = 86f. (68 mirrored)

More like -20 is cold -10 is cool 0 is cold and damp 10 is nice 20 is warm 30 is hot 40 is off the charts

> 40 was off the charts.

FTFY

Re: Spain bans setting the AC below 27 degrees Celsius

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Post by gambiting »

hgazx wrote: post #81
gambiting wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>And if we want we shouldn’t have to build a ramp to our business. Are you serious? How is this even a thing to argue about??? >>Yes we should have the freedom to keep our lights on if we want as long as we pay our bills. Even in an energy crisis? I imagine when you are faced with severe drought you also argue that you should be able to use as much water as you want as long as you pay your bills? What an argument. I…

This energy crisis is a self inflicted wound- people here have consistently voted for candidates that have refused to build nuclear, have put CO2 caps in place, have made enemies of everybody who could sell us gas, etc. They deserve everything that is coming to them. I have absolutely no sympathy for the prices that they are having to pay.

I don't see how that's relevant here though. And I especially don't see how that's relevant to Spain - Spanish people don't vote for or elect politicians in Germany, which is the country most in trouble right now due to its idiotic energy policies

>>have made enemies of everybody who could sell us gas, etc.

I hope you don't mean Russia by this.

Re: Spain bans setting the AC below 27 degrees Celsius

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Post by hgazx »

gambiting wrote: post #84
hgazx wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This energy crisis is a self inflicted wound- people here have consistently voted for candidates that have refused to build nuclear, have put CO2 caps in place, have made enemies of everybody who could sell us gas, etc. They deserve everything that is coming to them. I have absolutely no sympathy for the prices that they are having to pay.

I don't see how that's relevant here though. And I especially don't see how that's relevant to Spain - Spanish people don't vote for or elect politicians in Germany, which is the country most in trouble right now due to its idiotic energy policies >>have made enemies of everybody who could sell us gas, etc. I hope you don't mean Russia by this.

Spain can solve all those problems by ourselves. If the EU doesn’t let us, then Spain must leave the EU.

Yes I mean Russia. I don’t give a shit what they are doing. What’s the alternative, buying liquefied gas from the USA? Have you been paying attention to what they’ve done the past decades? Lol

Re: Spain bans setting the AC below 27 degrees Celsius

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Post by gambiting »

hgazx wrote: post #85
gambiting wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how that's relevant here though. And I especially don't see how that's relevant to Spain - Spanish people don't vote for or elect politicians in Germany, which is the country most in trouble right now due to its idiotic energy policies >>have made enemies of everybody who could sell us gas, etc. I hope you don't mean Russia by this.

Spain can solve all those problems by ourselves. If the EU doesn’t let us, then Spain must leave the EU. Yes I mean Russia. I don’t give a shit what they are doing. What’s the alternative, buying liquefied gas from the USA? Have you been paying attention to what they’ve done the past decades? Lol

Ok, I've had enough of arguing with Russian apologists on the internet over the last few months. I have zero interest in taking to you any further.

Re: Spain bans setting the AC below 27 degrees Celsius

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Post by troad »

Macha wrote: post #56
troad wrote: post #27

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Yes, it’s incredibly useful for outdoor temperature. 0 F means it’s very cold, 100 F means it’s very hot. Meanwhile, 0 C means it’s sort of a little cold, and 100 C means your eyes will melt. I grew up with and actively use Celsius, but this instinctive disdain for other measurement systems leaves me… a little cold. It’s not even like Fahrenheit has weird non-decimal ratios. Save your mocking for the avoirdupois furl…

100C is also very hot. What's your standard of too hot? Uncomfortably hot? From the climate I'm used to then 80F qualifies. I'm not sure 80F is any less arbitrary a threshold than 25C. Don't confuse "my personal range of comfortable temperatures goes from 0-100F" with "0-100F maps neatly to every person's preferred temperature range and therefore is an advantage to fahrenheit" (and that's before we get into the effec…

I’m honestly unsure how personal preference enters into it. For the vast majority of the planet, within an acceptable margin of error, 0 - 100 F will be a useful temperature range for almost all naturally occurring outside temperatures.

As for personal preference, I think the first two thirds of that range are unbearable. I grew up in an subtropical area that regularly rises over 100 F in the summer. I don’t go around pretending that’s not hot though. It’s very hot! Unless you’re proposing different temperature scales for every climate, I’m unsure how your point about your local area is relevant. Surely people travel outside of your (and my) warm climate.

Re: Spain bans setting the AC below 27 degrees Celsius

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Post by Markoff »

stefandesu wrote: post #13

I've never understood why (in some countries) public places are so cooled down in the summer and so heated up in the winter. In Japan, in the summer they put the ACs to what feels like 16ºC, so whenever you go from outdoor (very hot and humid) to indoor, you feel like you'll freeze (because you're dressed for 30ºC). In the winter, they put the ACs to 25ºC, so you move from outdoor to indoor, it's extremely hot and st…

Pff, this is nothing try travelling by bus/minivan in Thailand, now that's freezer box.

Re: Spain bans setting the AC below 27 degrees Celsius

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Post by andreareina »

cameronh90 wrote: post #30
stefandesu wrote: post #13

I've never understood why (in some countries) public places are so cooled down in the summer and so heated up in the winter. In Japan, in the summer they put the ACs to what feels like 16ºC, so whenever you go from outdoor (very hot and humid) to indoor, you feel like you'll freeze (because you're dressed for 30ºC). In the winter, they put the ACs to 25ºC, so you move from outdoor to indoor, it's extremely hot and st…

Myself and many others seem to find 21c too cold in winter and too hot in summer in some buildings. I think it's possibly due to radiant temperature: for example, the walls/roof/floor are hotter in summer so you need to cool the air down more to make up for that. That said, Japan and some other places (Singapore!) take it to the extreme, and in a modern well insulated building, this is much less needed than it used t…

In Singapore using a/c is still seen as a luxury so it's a selling point for the malls.

Re: Spain bans setting the AC below 27 degrees Celsius

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Post by manuelabeledo »

hgazx wrote: post #85
gambiting wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how that's relevant here though. And I especially don't see how that's relevant to Spain - Spanish people don't vote for or elect politicians in Germany, which is the country most in trouble right now due to its idiotic energy policies >>have made enemies of everybody who could sell us gas, etc. I hope you don't mean Russia by this.

Spain can solve all those problems by ourselves. If the EU doesn’t let us, then Spain must leave the EU. Yes I mean Russia. I don’t give a shit what they are doing. What’s the alternative, buying liquefied gas from the USA? Have you been paying attention to what they’ve done the past decades? Lol

Hold on, so your definition of “freedom” is becoming dependant on a fascist state who actively threats your very own neighbours, just for the chance of keeping some arguably useless store lightning on?
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