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Linux 5.19
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Re: Linux 5.19
#82Somewhat surprisingly, Linux support for Apple Silicon MacBooks seems to be shaping up to be better than that for pretty much any other laptop. The Asahi team don’t have support for everything yet (notably no GPU) but what they do have support for seems to be high quality, well integrated with Linux’s conventions, and upstreamed into the mainline kernel! How much other hardware can claim that? The Asahi developers ha…
> MacBooks could easily end up becoming the laptop of choice for Linux developers That is, if they want to subsidize with their own wallets the dominance of consumer-hostile computing that open source was created to avert. Except for development such as this here, which aims at liberating users from a closed platform, I would have a philosophical problem to buy such hardware purely for my convenience. Let's not fool…
Maybe Linux UX is user hostile, eh?
Re: Linux 5.19
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except we clearly see that Linus has bought Macs over and over again. Presumably because they're the best tool for the job and he likes them. And you still have failed (like everyone else) to make any real argument that Apple is somehow warring against "software liberty". Promoting your own platform doesn't amount to doing so, certainly.
Again, what Linus does and doesn't is not relevant for a discussion about morality - unless you are starting a religion centered around him as a moral model. Fyi, the App Store license is deliberately incompatible with the GPL.
There is no such thing as "App Store license".
Re: Linux 5.19
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nvidia is actively hostile. Apple is slightly willing to get Linux to work. It's not comperable.
But it's still discouraging to the companies that actually support Linux.
Ok it’s on them to make a laptop that can compete with an Apple Silicon Air then
Re: Linux 5.19
#85Somewhat surprisingly, Linux support for Apple Silicon MacBooks seems to be shaping up to be better than that for pretty much any other laptop. The Asahi team don’t have support for everything yet (notably no GPU) but what they do have support for seems to be high quality, well integrated with Linux’s conventions, and upstreamed into the mainline kernel! How much other hardware can claim that? The Asahi developers ha…
If you take a regular Lenovo laptop, everything likely works out of the box with an upstream kernel. This quite not the case yet with Asahi Linux which does not support power management, no USB, no sound. There was a time where Apple laptops came with very good Linux support. It was the time were every bit of hardware support was present in Darwin (a 12" iBook G3 was working flawlessly with Linux for example). I thin…
> regular Lenovo laptop
This is true for what we nerds call a "lenovo laptop" (so mostly T series). Install, everything works.
Lenovo also sells a bunch of cheapish plasticky laptops that look like some random noname chinese OEM manufactured and lenovo just put a sticker on... well, linux support there is a bit hit and miss.
Re: Linux 5.19
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple keyboards are the same as Windows, they just have different labels. The ALT key is called "option". CTRL is "control" and the windows key is "command".
Lots more different than that: + Windows has the Windows key (which Linux called "super") + Windows also has the context menu key, which I think it pretty useless to be honest but others might get value from that + The Mac keyboard layout is US-like, even on European models. Which means a bunch of keys are in different places from their European IBM counterparts (like @ and "). The # and / keys I find particularly ha…
> Windows also has the context menu key, which I think it pretty useless to be honest but others might get value from that
It is a convenient key to map compose key on.
Re: Linux 5.19
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lots more different than that: + Windows has the Windows key (which Linux called "super") + Windows also has the context menu key, which I think it pretty useless to be honest but others might get value from that + The Mac keyboard layout is US-like, even on European models. Which means a bunch of keys are in different places from their European IBM counterparts (like @ and "). The # and / keys I find particularly ha…
Every Norwegian Mac laptop keyboard has been physically identical to every Norwegian PC laptop keyboard I've used, with the exception of the label changes and the missing context menu key. And Mac keyboards have the Windows key, they just call it "command" instead of "Windows" or "super" but it's in the same place.
The Command key is not in the same place as the Windows key; the Command key neighbors the spacebar, whereas the Windows key is wedged between Alt and Ctrl.
Re: Linux 5.19
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
So we can conclude, that the the big star of open source is not enforcing the child of open source :( Ref SemVer: https://semver.org/
That's one way of doing it, not the only way, and only tangentially related ('it can be useful to' sort of relationship) to open source.
Some developers (younger ones?) seem to think that the SemVer spec is a law of the universe, when in reality it's just something a GitHub guy put into the mix in the 2010s.
Re: Linux 5.19
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every Norwegian Mac laptop keyboard has been physically identical to every Norwegian PC laptop keyboard I've used, with the exception of the label changes and the missing context menu key. And Mac keyboards have the Windows key, they just call it "command" instead of "Windows" or "super" but it's in the same place.
The Command key is not in the same place as the Windows key; the Command key neighbors the spacebar, whereas the Windows key is wedged between Alt and Ctrl.
Oh you're right. I use right cmd/right super so rarely that I never noticed, despite regularly using both types.
Re: Linux 5.19
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you take a regular Lenovo laptop, everything likely works out of the box with an upstream kernel. Never worked flawlessly in my experience.
I suppose it depends on your Lenovo series. I have been using exclusively T and X laptop for the past 20+ years and it always worked perfectly. There was a time where the battery life was better with Windows, but maybe only 2 or 3 years "in-between". Nowadays, the hardware support is for me a non issue.
My experience, also using T and X series laptops matches yours. Some issues with resuming from sleep a long time ago and with firmware on a docking station once but otherwise only one gripe: I've never been entirely happy with the fan control. I found in the end with my T440s that leaving it to the OS worked well enough. Previously, with older X series machines, I had to both try to optimize and also ended up replacing fans.