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Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#81

The author writes: > how can you protect yourself as a consumer? Followed by a tedious list of hoops to jump through around verifying authenticity to a point where you might not get stung. At this point, is it not better to just give up on Amazon and use a retailer that takes its product sourcing more seriously? Continuing to use Amazon when you know how full to the brim of scams it is, just seems to me like rewardin…

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Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#82

Amazon "... is turning their marketplace into a flea market of total junk." Man if this isn't the dead-on honest truth. Amazon is so garbage now that Walmart.com is a trusted supplier by comparison. I can't believe Amazon gets away with the crap they do. They so obviously turn a blind eye to constant, serious anti-consumer crap from Chinese sellers. Why? And why doesn't the FTC or any other department do anything?

> Man if this isn't the dead-on honest truth. Amazon is so garbage now that Walmart.com is a trusted supplier by comparison. I would have agreed with this sentiment six months ago, but now Walmart allows third-party sellers. I could consolidate to "At least BRICK-AND-MORTAR Walmart stores should have reliable products", but physical Walmart seems to have gotten in bed with this Chinese brand "onn." Their products are…

I think "onn" is just Walmart's "store brand" for generic electronics[1]. Kind of like "Insignia" and BestBuy. The design and manufacturing is all outsourced and these are usually quite crappy as one would expect.

> Walmart is Onn’s parent company. Onn is Walmart’s generic brand electronics label, and Onn products, including Onn TVs, are only available in Walmart stores.

[1] https://sycamorenet.com/blog/who-makes-onn-tv/

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#83
post #39

Unless I missed it, he didn't really talk about why these names exist, other than to suggest it might be a troll? Related, I don't understand twitter as a place for long form content. It's difficult to read and it can't be easy to post.

The idea is that these names are generated pseudo-randomly or arbitrarily because they have no brand value. Sellers that use them run through "companies" quickly as they get banned for forbidden practice or because their reputation tanks. Then they create the next seller account with another name.

Ah, yeah, I suppose. Maybe I need things spelled out for me.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#84

One of the posts contains a screenshot of a vendor's company name and address. The company name (and words in th address) may look really long and suspicious, but it's just because it's transliterated from Chinese. OP says these are all 'shell companies', but AFAIK it's more onerous and costly to register and maintain a company in China, than in many states in the US.

There was one that conceivably could have been a bad OCR attempt to read Chinese characters using a Latin alphabet which is weird, but some of them do also look like bad/non-standard Romanisation attempts (with an odd lack of spaces etc.). Odd because I'd think technology to accurately generate standard (pinyin) romanisation must be reasonably good by now.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just recently Amazon allowed me to buy a kindle book for my specific kindle device, which turned out to not be supported. But they still allowed me to purchase and deliver it to this kindle. Only once I went to the device to sync it did I learn that it was incompatible. I was not allowed a refund. The reasonable behaviour would of course be to give a pop-up like "hey, you're trying to buy a book that doesn't work for…

I'm amazed they even sell books in the Kindle store that don't work with all the Kindles. Like, it's a book... what's not compatible???

Beats me. It's even a Paperwhite, not like it's completely prehistoric either. The book was Operating Systems: Three Easy Pieces. Hell it's even freely available in html format, but I wanted to buy it anyway because I like to support authors of great books whenever possible. I've not yet tried to sideload the free version, but I bet it would work...

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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post #10

Pro tip: If you absolutely must buy the junk being sold by MOFFBUZW and other randomly generated drop-shipper brands, the exact same product is usually available on AliExpress for 10% the price.

Unfortunately with 500% of the shipping time (most of the time) :(

And a terrible return policy

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#87
post #3

Pretty interesting. Its odd Amazon allows this to happen, but I guess they have no incentives not to. Reminds me of this video from the Pitch Meeting YouTube guy: https://youtu.be/nQpxAvjD_30

> but I guess they have no incentives not to

I'm surprised that reputation didn't do it. (But I agree; Amazon's behavior certainly seems to show that they don't care.)

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#88

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

> I wonder what the internet would really look like if there was no bot traffic, fake clicks, and fake accounts. In an economy where the only thing that matters is actual money there wouldn't be any bots - after all I don't see bots queuing up to buy stuff. This is a problem the bullshit advertising and "growth & engagement" industry brought on themselves. If you pay people to click on stuff, they're gonna click it,…

It's in the actual-money economy as well. That was the point of the article.

Anytime you have thousands of versions of things to sell (Amazon) you're going to need a ranking mechanism. And ranking mechanisms can be gamed by bots and other tricks.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#89

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

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Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#90
I still end up using Amazon for a lot of things, but I do find the gibberish chinesium crap somewhat amusing. I won't buy anything that isn't sold by Amazon, brand name, and not a battery or other really common counterfeiting target.

I also use eBay sometimes, but the prices are 9/10 times higher than Amazon for brand name items.

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