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Is this targeting private citizens (or companies) that put up websites regardless of where the servers are located?
And/or is this targeting servers running these website within South Carolina.
Obviously both are bad, But I have to wonder if it is the second what this could mean for states like VA where AWS has a datacenter. If they were to enact similar laws.
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The only controversy is that your parents, your peers have totally warped your world view to remove compassion, logic and reason. If it wasn’t so such a deadly result for the rest of us, I would say it was sad. But we must not be sad, me must call out a destructive though process that actively regresses humanity and ensure that it cannot harm others.
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But opposing abortion and not caring about the consequences for women and families IS appalling.
Edit: I misread the parent quote.
Speaking of things that aren't related. I don't see how those things being legal is even somewhat related to making abortion illegal or making it legal to bounty hunt women. You're going to have to explain that connection to me a bit more.
Just waiting for that batshit bounty law (in Texas) to spread to other states. Basically, any citizen can sue anyone if they suspect aiding or abetting an abortion. There are seemingly no recourses either, for the defendant. If successful, the plaintiff can be awarded up to $10k - therefore a bounty law. So by that logic, you should be able to sue the owner of a website - as long as it is within the state, because th…
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The interstate commerce clause was hollowed out and left undefended[0]. Go on Reddit/Twitter a you can find a bunch of people crying about abortion who were previously making fun of "StAteS RiGhtS". We tried to warn them but nobody wanted to listen. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn
> The interstate commerce clause was hollowed out and left undefended Your citation to Wickard v. Fillburn for support of this is...bizarre. That case took what some view as an unreasonably expansive view of the federal power under the ICC, but that does the opposite of supporting the contention that it was “hollowed out” in a way that expands state power into the reserved federal space.
It explicitly says Congress however it is currently interpreted that it applies to all governmental organizations. Federal, state and local. It has previously been argued that the same limitation on interstate law existed at the state level, as the authority of a state could not exceed that of the congress when it came to national matters. If congress effectively has no limitation, there is no limitation to exceed.
> For the NRLC, which wrote the model legislation, limiting communication is a key part of the strategy to aggressively enforce laws restricting abortion. “The whole criminal enterprise needs to be dealt with to effectively prevent criminal activity,” Jim Bopp, the group’s general counsel, wrote in a July 4 memo, comparing the group’s efforts to fighting organized crime. This basically tells you everything you need t…
>The reversal or Roe was not about "kicking it back to the states", it was the first step in trying to make abortion access illegal nationwide. Yes, and it makes me angry that so many commenters on this and other forums said, "Well, they have a point. It should be left to the states." As if women whose lives are at risk can wait for their judicial philosophy to cleanly play out; as if the raped 10 year old being forc…
People in the US are able to freely travel between states, this isn't the case elsewhere in the world. Some things are crimes in some jurisdictions and not others, this is normal.
If you think it's inadequate, pass an amendment to the constitution, that's what the amendment process if for. If you think the process to too burdensome, encourage your state to secede.
> For the NRLC, which wrote the model legislation, limiting communication is a key part of the strategy to aggressively enforce laws restricting abortion. “The whole criminal enterprise needs to be dealt with to effectively prevent criminal activity,” Jim Bopp, the group’s general counsel, wrote in a July 4 memo, comparing the group’s efforts to fighting organized crime. This basically tells you everything you need t…
Don't get me wrong. There is definitely an abortion rights disaster in progress. It's just that this disaster was manufactured only to distract from a larger, more powerful, disaster.
Have you noticed how expensive everything is lately?
And how will this debacle affect your vote?
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Most modern, developed nations regularly update their constitutions. The US is somewhat anomalous in holding on to an ancient document and considering it sacred.
>The US is somewhat anomalous in holding on to an ancient document and considering it sacred. The Constitution was amended 12 times in the 1900s, the last being 1992. There are still multiple pending amendments. And, as a Union of States, each also with constitutions and amendments, how do you treat the overall legal entity? Most developed nations are about the size of a US state - and some are slowly banding into la…
> Do you have some list of developed nations rate of constitution updates?
Yes. https://comparativeconstitutionsproject.org/chronology/#
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Phrasing a proposed bill as if it has taken effect is a standard tactic to evoke extra emotion resulting in extra clicks. Edit: seems I was wrong because bill means proposed law, so the clarification would have been redundant
A bill is a proposed law, by definition. You're assuming bad faith where there isn't any.
Nobody would say "Terrorist bombed subway" when they meant "Terrorist would have bombed subway" (except that they were stopped, and didn't get the chance).
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I always worry when we start painting large groups of people with a single brush and labeling them the enemy. There are plenty of people who oppose abortion that are appalled at something like this or the Texas bounty hunting law. If we continue to try and paint each other group as a monolithic enemy other division will continue to rise and polarization will increase and the effects will be devestating.
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I understand this is an emotional issue but until everyone can agree to at least have a discussion about this without getting overemotional we can't have any discussion or compromise only polarization and that eventually leads to shooting and a civil war.
I mean my own sister told me she hopes my 2 year old daughter gets raped because of my position on this issue. Doesn't that strike anyone else as something that would deplorable under other circumstances but we excuse it right now because we believe the cause is righteous?
This is how fanatics and extremists are made.