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I regret my website redesign

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Re: I regret my website redesign

#81
so the question is, is it really that hard to start from scratch?

You could have the top tier upwork freelancers for 60-100 USD per hour

fully dedicated to your project

Would it really be more expensive than a spaghetti touched by 10+ people at an agency?

Re: I regret my website redesign

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post #71

The decision to anonymize the agency is understandable, but I wonder about the systemic effects. Right now the reputation cost is born by all agencies, leading to a tragedy of the commons for shoddy delivery. But encouraging authors to name names would drag them into a public dispute they don’t need, and disincentivize the many valuable lessons that are in here. (THANK YOU! 90% of people wouldn’t have pushed through…

Can anyone give an anecdote about how costly (time and money) it is to pursue legal options in this kind of situation? I hate net-negative strategies, but (anec)data would be really helpful to many of us in the future.

Re: I regret my website redesign

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post #37

I am pretty sure there are a handful of good (based on Tailwind CSS) template generators which will produce results superior to the pages you received. Sure, you'd need to hire someone to do the logo and the custom icons, but I am certain that would not cost you anywhere near $46k. Furthermore, I cannot comprehend how this actually happened even if you shared all the details. Holy shit, for $46k you could have gotten…

In my opinion, you're not paying $175 for a good looking page. You're paying that premium for an expertise in what will convert, how to build a funnel, and what to measure. I can pay a guy $60/hr in India, and get something that looks decent.

Re: I regret my website redesign

#85

It's odd that you didn't want to name the agency. They ripped you off =/ No two ways about it. > I genuinely believe that WebAgency tried their best on this project. I don’t feel like they meant to deceive me or squeeze money out of me. We just didn’t match. I was used to working with individual freelancers, and WebAgency was accustomed to larger clients. ...I think that is a very forgiving, but utterly self-doormatt…

> I don’t feel like they meant to deceive me or squeeze money out of me.

From the article: > They were so excited about the project and got carried away, but he was going to remove the hours they’d spent redesigning the blog.

The management directed the designers to do that work, to see if they could get away with charging for it. There is no doubt, that you were deceived to squeeze money out of you.

Re: I regret my website redesign

#87
I respect the tone of this blog post. I pause to think how I would word this experience if it happened to me. Since it hasn't, I don't really know how I would react. However; having this cool composure to think through why things ended up as they did and how it could be improved in the future is something I hope to aspire to.

"We just didn't fit" is a fantastic conclusion.

The ego is one helluva thing, and a hurt ego with negative self talk can lead one down silly paths. OP is cool as a cucumber.

Re: I regret my website redesign

#88
I've worked on the other side of this and it's the end result of any large agency that starts chasing the bigger clients. More and more time, effort, and money is spent on the ideation/thinking/design side to the point everything else just grinds to a halt. For executives on both sides it's great. For anyone who hasn't to _do_ something, it's at best pointless, and at worst poisonous to every other activity.

As the author said, hiring a freelancer with specific goals is a much better route.

Re: I regret my website redesign

#89
You know how, during a big programming project, you have to keep the devs from going "this codebase has a lot of technical debt, let's rebuild the whole thing using Rust and Kubernetes and Deno and move the hosting to Azure and switch databases and use microservices and..."?

Designers are exactly the same way. Just as technical fiddling is fun and interesting, making new designs from scratch is just as fun and interesting. And, just as fixing bugs is tedious and boring, tweaking designs is tedious and boring.

I've been on both sides for a lot of years, and I have to keep a sharp eye on myself to keep from spinning my wheels on distractions.

Even the Pope had to keep Michelangelo focused on the Sistine Chapel and not wander off to work on his tomb.

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