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Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#81
Since I still login to Facebook at least once a month to see what my family is doing, I see no reason for me to switch.

If I was starting with a new device with no prior purchases of entertainment content, then I would create an Oculus account.

For me, Oculus is the one really great thing about Meta/Facebook. It is my favorite toy.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was so pumped for Oculus. I was following them way before Carmack joined. I had a DK2. What facebook did to Oculus is a good enough reason for me to hate them intensely forever.

What exactly did they "do" to oculus besides give them a ton of funding and try to bring them into the mainstream?

They broke the emerging VR software ecosystem into the open side which many companies supported and a Facebook only proprietary one they asserted ownership and control of. Before Facebook bought Oculus there was cooperation and native software interoptibility between Vive and Rift.

Then they stopped supporting desktop head mounted displays for the most part and switched to building face mounted VR computers that happened to have an initially janky, and always higher latency, passthrough mode to support acting as a display for a real computer.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#83

Instead, a Meta account is required. I see what you did there.

I thought you were kidding until I clicked through. How is this better in any way?

one advantage might be that getting kicked or banned from facebook won't brick your VR devices.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#84

I am super bearish on Meta: - why would anyone trust Meta/FB on anything they say or trust them with your data - FB became popular because it was easy to use, it was just about uploading and commenting on photos. I don't see any of my family members buying a VR device and connect in metaverse ... there is no way .. - I don't think people will ever use VR devices for the sole purpose of having meeting, video works jus…

10 years ago, did you see all your family members keeping a computer with a constant internet connection in their pocket? I think our predictive abilities of the future are often lacking.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#85
post #71

@dang This is a heavily editorialized bait-and-switch title, posted by a user who is a VP at Facebook. That doesn't seem above board.

Oh get over it, your hate for FB is noted. The title is accurate, the information is news, and IMO HN users are smart enough to know what a PR release is when they read it.

What are you worried about? That folks will walk this earth thinking you have to use a Meta account instead of a Facebook account to log into your VR app?

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#86
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did . I suspect that if they still do, there's going too be a really painful GDPR penalty heading their way.

Cost of doing business? Is GDPR protecting me as an American from Facebook shadow profiling me? How significant are GDPR fines?

In theory 4% from yearly revenue (not earnings, revenue), in practice I haven’t seen it being applied.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#87
The problem isn't that you need a Facebook account, it's that Meta owns Oculus at all. Call the account whatever you want; if I'm a record in any of Meta's databases then I expect to be linked to a shadow profile and surveilled for their profit. The only control I have over the situation is to never agree to any ToS relationship with Meta. There's literally nothing they can do to change this short of selling Oculus to someone else.

The day Meta bought Oculus they killed the platform for privacy-conscious webizens. I say this as someone who would love to try the Soda Island VR experiences and often lament the acquisition.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#88

Just after leaks of a killer VR headset from Valve? No thank you, Meta. For those not in the know, Valve is coming out with a successor to the Index headset called Valve Deckard. They'll probably announce it later this year. From the leaked information, it looks like an absolute beast of a headset.

I didn't realize the Index was still being sold - it was unavailable so long that I thought they launched it, sold the initial batch, then never made more and abandoned the product. As a result, I wrote Valve off as "launches awesome tech demos but doesn't want to make consumer products".

(I thought they also launched then cancelled another hardware product, but I don't remember details and can't find anything, so my memory may be playing tricks on me? Maybe I subconsciously mixed up the Nvidia Shield and Valve?)

The Deckard seems to be standalone too. That's excellent. In practice, being standalone was a killer feature. You can just grab and use it like a phone, instead of having to boot a PC, mess around with cables, make sure the lighthouses are powered up, inevitably spend the first 15 minutes debugging the setup... (and of course having to own a gaming PC in the first place was also a significant hurdle).

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

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post #78
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did . I suspect that if they still do, there's going too be a really painful GDPR penalty heading their way.

They can still do it to non-Europeans

How can they tell how an email address is European?

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#90
post #71

@dang This is a heavily editorialized bait-and-switch title, posted by a user who is a VP at Facebook. That doesn't seem above board.

Oh get over it, your hate for FB is noted. The title is accurate, the information is news, and IMO HN users are smart enough to know what a PR release is when they read it. What are you worried about? That folks will walk this earth thinking you have to use a Meta account instead of a Facebook account to log into your VR app?

The post was posted by a (edit: recently ex-) VP at Facebook, and the posted title, while strictly accurate, doesn't mention that there's a brand new account type that you need to have. I read this at first as "I can finally buy a VR headset and use it as regular hardware", not "FB is still going to track my usage, just under their new name".

"Introducing Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR" is the actual title, and should be used instead of this one.

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