Why is it a list and not a table? Seems like a pretty simple case of CREATE TABLE ethics ( id INT PRIMARY KEY, rule TEXT );
What happens during downtime for maintenance?
The SQLite Code of Ethics
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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics
#82Another one?
Looks like we get this every quarter..
Anyway, if you dont like it, fork it... or use another Db.
Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics
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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics
#84Hmm, is this some sort of Meta I’m missing? It feels strange to mix so many cultural ‘suggestions’ with a database product. > Listen willingly to holy reading. > Devote yourself frequently to prayer. > Daily in your prayers, with tears and sighs, confess your past sins to God, and amend them for the future. Anyway, sqlite is a good product and I don’t even mind all that much to have a code of Ethics associated to it,…
A Muslim coworker of mine once wrote a program that would log a prayer during startup. It was always fun when that block of text would randomly show up in one place or another.
I can see how something limited in scope, accepted by the team could be fun and quirky but what if every coworker started writing little scripts with their own beliefs popping up in one place or another?
Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics
#85seeing as some people have already added some comments criticizing the code of conduct, I thought I'd add what I think is the most important parts of that code of Ethics : > No one is required to follow The Rule [...] or even think that [it] is a good idea. [...] anyone is free to dispute or ignore that idea [...] > This is a one-way promise [...]. the developers are saying "we will treat you this way regardless of h…
> The founder of SQLite and all current developers have pledged to follow the spirit of The Rule to the best of their ability.
Sure, as far as I'm aware code of conducts/ethics only ever apply to contributors, no-one has beliefs being forced upon them. But that seems to be about the highest bar of entry for an interested developer I have seen in any project.
Not waving pitchforks here, I'm fine with them having this code of ethics, even tough I disagree with about half the points and find being asked to do such a pledge way to intrusive into personal life.
Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
> makes it seem like Christianity is a prerequisite for getting hired or contributing ...how could one possibly get this impression, when it literally says "No one is required to follow The Rule"?
This part: >The founder of SQLite and all current developers have pledged to follow the spirit of The Rule to the best of their ability. [...] In other words, the developers are saying: "We will treat you this way regardless of how you treat us." I would definitely not be able to honestly commit to such a pledge. Do you think they will add a "(except epa095)" if I get hired? Or maybe I just won't get hired. IDK, but…
Why not? If you're, for example, irreligious, then the best of your ability obviously doesn't include religious observations (and in fact, one could even make a solid argument that "interactions with each other, with their clients, and with the larger SQLite user community" don't touch the religious portions of Benedictine rules even for religious SQLite contributors because the clauses talking about relationship with God or Christ are simply not applicable to these interactions because none of the developers, clients, or larger SQLite user community include God or Christ). For example I'm a 110% atheist and yet I'd have zero problems with this. And again, you seem to be selectively ignoring the "this is not mandatory" part for some reason. If that part is a lie then the whole document is worthless as a guideline. You can't take a document telling you what to do and assume that it's randomly lying to you. If did that, then you'd have to consider your whole expected behavior to be unknowable.
Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics
#87Hmm, is this some sort of Meta I’m missing? It feels strange to mix so many cultural ‘suggestions’ with a database product. > Listen willingly to holy reading. > Devote yourself frequently to prayer. > Daily in your prayers, with tears and sighs, confess your past sins to God, and amend them for the future. Anyway, sqlite is a good product and I don’t even mind all that much to have a code of Ethics associated to it,…
> "... No one is required to follow The Rule, to know The Rule, or even to think that The Rule is a good idea. The Founder of SQLite believes that anyone who follows The Rule will live a happier and more productive life, but individuals are free to dispute or ignore that advice if they wish." > "...[the developers] view The Rule as their promise to all SQLite users of how the developers are expected to behave. This i…
> This speaks of the Founder and his team. Evangelism this is not, but an invitation to learn of the principles they pledge to adhere to.
I'm not sure that I claimed it's evangelism. For me personally it really did it's job of 'invitation to learn...' because I learned. I was surprised. This is probably not going to change my interaction with the product in any significant way, but it does make me wonder if 'ethical' reasons will in the future affect the technical decisions.
> I trust their sincerity, I trust the efforts they put into the products they shared.
Me too! They haven't given me any reason not to.
Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics
#88seeing as some people have already added some comments criticizing the code of conduct, I thought I'd add what I think is the most important parts of that code of Ethics : > No one is required to follow The Rule [...] or even think that [it] is a good idea. [...] anyone is free to dispute or ignore that idea [...] > This is a one-way promise [...]. the developers are saying "we will treat you this way regardless of h…
> The founder of SQLite and all current developers have pledged to follow the spirit of The Rule to the best of their ability. Sure, as far as I'm aware code of conducts/ethics only ever apply to contributors, no-one has beliefs being forced upon them. But that seems to be about the highest bar of entry for an interested developer I have seen in any project. Not waving pitchforks here, I'm fine with them having this…
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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics
#89I don't hate it.
Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics
#90It's breeze of fresh air compared to most code of conducts which sound like communist propaganda. This and the Linux code of conflict.
Right, instead it's just Christian Fundamentalism, not like the U.S. doesn't have a problem with that
It's not mandatory, while fundamentalism is way stricter.