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Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Post by xkbarkar »

jsnell wrote: post #52

The most concrete complaints in this piece appear to be: - Google News includes stories from a source that the author doesn't want anyone else to be able to see. (If they just didn't want to see those stories themselves, then there's an easily accessible "hide sources from XXX" entry in the context menu). - Generic complaints about shopping searches returning links to Amazon, or pages having referral links to Amazon.…

Yea I thought the same. Sounded more like fragile “milennial” complaint than an actual good article with solid facts. You could find 100 solid ways to distrust google. Didnt think the author hit a single credible point.

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

addicted wrote: post #5

Google News has become completely worthless for me. It takes my YouTube usage and promotes news stories based on that. But that makes absolutely no sense. I go to YouTube to relax and/or look at things that are not so important. Sudoku solving, gaming news, and/or chess stuff. I used to go to Google News to have an understanding of what’s happening in the world. But now my Google News feed is overridden by stories ab…

This is where Firefox Containers[1] rules. Just open all these sites in new containers and you can keep them siloed and apart (either not logged in, or under separate accounts). You can have as many as you want and have them auto-assigned based on the website.

It's actually an official Firefox project, although it comes as an extension. Though I think it should be a first class feature in the base install.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

HWR_14 wrote: post #63
jmyeet wrote: post #28

The fallacy of youth is that one of extremes. Things are never as bad as they seem. Likewise they're never really as good as they seem. The latter I think explains a lot of nostalgia and holding onto the first "past" we lived through. At the very least it's easy to view that as our baseline. What's "normal", if you will. I say this because as hard as can be to imagine how something like Google will cease to be domina…

What on earth makes you think the Vanderbilts, Rockefellers and Astors aren't part of the ruling class?

> Upon her death, Vanderbilt left her son, Anderson Cooper, almost her entire estate, which was valued at less than $1.5 million.

Gloria Vanderbilt wasn’t ultra wealthy by any means. Lots of retirees from modest backgrounds have $1.5 million upon death. My uncle is a cnc machinist and had a retirement of about a million dollars.

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Post by guerrilla »

freyr wrote: post #75

Do people miss the Google of old, or the Web of old? The Web used to be very information dense. It was built from the ground up by specialists and enthusiasts, educational and governmental institutions, and groups of like-minded individuals. Then it became commercialized and commodified. Entire industries popped up to shovel mass-produced crap to masses of people through Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. Forums became s…

> Do people miss the Google of old, or the Web of old?

Yeah, I wish I knew how to get back to it, but I think that's impossible without a big enough movement. Yes, I know about tildeverse and some other things but the countervailing network effect is just too big for it to be sustaining right now. The closest is Mastadon but it's not really that great.

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Post by spicyusername »

jmyeet wrote: post #28

The fallacy of youth is that one of extremes. Things are never as bad as they seem. Likewise they're never really as good as they seem. The latter I think explains a lot of nostalgia and holding onto the first "past" we lived through. At the very least it's easy to view that as our baseline. What's "normal", if you will. I say this because as hard as can be to imagine how something like Google will cease to be domina…

> These things have a way of working themselves out.

Yes, but how they work themselves out and where they work themselves out to matter quite a lot.

Also, both of those things, the how and the where, are not random. They are influenced dramatically by the blood, sweat, and tears of people with ideals and the willingness put in the work.

Those people putting in the work, are they people who share your vision of what the world should be like?

If you don't participate in the process, you can't complain about the result.

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Post by _eht »

spencerchubb wrote: post #70

I stopped reading after the second paragraph. The author just started complaining about Breitbart and Epoch Times being in the news recommendations I'm not saying I endorse those news companies. It's just like... I thought this was going to be about google search or something that actually matters

> I stopped reading after the second paragraph…

> … I thought this was going to be about google search or something that actually matters

That’s what the other paragraphs were for. #itgetsbetter

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Post by markers »

Started paying for Kagi.com recently and is very satisfied with the results. Visiting Google again after being used to Kagi is an interesting and uncomfortable experience, it's very easy to become accustomed to how much ads and irrelevant information Google actually displays.

The ability to boost your favorite sites is a really nice feature, especially for developers. Also not having to sift through all the content-stealing websites and SEO scams is a huge plus. Recommended!

(No connection to it, just happy user).

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Post by cardosof »

croes wrote: post #57
jmyeet wrote: post #28

The fallacy of youth is that one of extremes. Things are never as bad as they seem. Likewise they're never really as good as they seem. The latter I think explains a lot of nostalgia and holding onto the first "past" we lived through. At the very least it's easy to view that as our baseline. What's "normal", if you will. I say this because as hard as can be to imagine how something like Google will cease to be domina…

The problem isn't one specific wealthy family, it's that wealth is always concentrated on few people. Just because a king dies and gets replaced by another king doesn't help the peasants.

Wealth will always be very unequal, see the Mathew principle - just like a few songs have the most listeners and a few books the most readers. And it's hard to stay at the top too, so the elites are always changing.

The real issue comes when the really powerful can inflate their and their friends assets at will.

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Post by capdiz »

freyr wrote: post #75

Do people miss the Google of old, or the Web of old? The Web used to be very information dense. It was built from the ground up by specialists and enthusiasts, educational and governmental institutions, and groups of like-minded individuals. Then it became commercialized and commodified. Entire industries popped up to shovel mass-produced crap to masses of people through Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. Forums became s…

Supposing it's just a youthful phase. Like the fashion industry for example. Where skinny jeans were popular in the 80's then baggy jeans in the 90's. Then skinny jeans are back in sync now. Don't you think personal blogs and forums will come in sync at some point in the future?
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