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Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

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Post by nsxwolf »

If it doesn't train itself on your company's codebases, I don't see much use for it. I spend much more time understanding requirements than writing code. By the time I know what to actually code, the coding part is pretty easy. The hardest part about coding is making sure what I write is high quality and fits in nicely with everyone else's code and the established architecture of the module I'm working in. If Copilot can't say "Oh, I see we're using this existing function or service to do this part, let's not duplicate code" I don't see it being useful.

I don't need help parsing a string or iterating over a list.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#82

Post by anamexis »

falcolas wrote: post #71
progrus wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, that’s the hope. Putting together well-solved combinations of computer functionality ought to become less-skilled work as technology progresses.

If law - the human language equivalent of programming - hasn’t gotten simpler in past thousands of years as new abstractions and complications have arisen, I hold no hope for programming.

Maybe they will converge, and all programs will be written in legalese and interpreted by Copilot.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#83

Post by croes »

BarryMilo wrote: post #50
croes wrote: post #25

Time for programmers to get the same rights as musicians and composers. That's clearly a remix of the work of others

They already do, no? Problem is this magical solution requires ignoring all copyright law. We can't prove it but when someone does, it'll be a legal shitshow.

Which programmer or his descendants receive payments up to 70 years after his death or per call of his written software?

And yes, MS is now monetising the work of others.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#84

Post by djur »

falcolas wrote: post #71
progrus wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, that’s the hope. Putting together well-solved combinations of computer functionality ought to become less-skilled work as technology progresses.

If law - the human language equivalent of programming - hasn’t gotten simpler in past thousands of years as new abstractions and complications have arisen, I hold no hope for programming.

Surely the human language equivalent of programming is recipes and other types of written instructions. Law is far more abstract and subjective than programming.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#85

Post by wonderbore »

carnitine wrote: post #68
joelwigton wrote: post #49

Have been using Copilot in the beta and it's just been amazing. I can't remember how many times my jaw has literally dropped as it knows what I'm trying to do, or yelled "Holy sh*t!" as it feels like it's reading my mind. That said, was highly disappointed with the switch to non-free. Maybe they never did say it would remain free, but they certainly didn't advertise it wouldn't be later. I feel bait-and-switched. Yes…

Not really, $10 is reasonable even if you’re a hobbyist who never expects to generate any revenue.

Reasonable doesn’t mean a hobbyist would pay $100/year for this. That’s not pocket money for most of the world.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#86

Post by chongli »

falcolas wrote: post #71
progrus wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, that’s the hope. Putting together well-solved combinations of computer functionality ought to become less-skilled work as technology progresses.

If law - the human language equivalent of programming - hasn’t gotten simpler in past thousands of years as new abstractions and complications have arisen, I hold no hope for programming.

Law is opposed to these sorts of changes due to the business model of the law firm. In the law firm world billable hours are king. Automation reduces billable hours. No law firm wants to do that.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

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Post by mberning »

chongli wrote: post #86
falcolas wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If law - the human language equivalent of programming - hasn’t gotten simpler in past thousands of years as new abstractions and complications have arisen, I hold no hope for programming.

Law is opposed to these sorts of changes due to the business model of the law firm. In the law firm world billable hours are king. Automation reduces billable hours. No law firm wants to do that.

I think it has more to do with having an adversarial law system. It doesn’t matter what new tool you come up with in the arms race. Your competitor will soon have it as well.

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

#89

Post by wronglyprepaid »

cube2222 wrote: post #76

I've been using Copilot for a few months and... Yeah, it makes mistakes, sometimes it shows you i.e. the most common way to do something, even if that way has a bug in it. Yes, sometimes it writes a complete blunder. And yes again, sometimes there are very subtle logical mistakes in the code it proposes. But overall? It's been great ! Definitely worth the 10 bucks a month (especially with a developer salary). :insert…

> It's excellent for quickly writing slightly repetitive test cases;

Ever considered parameterization?

Re: GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist, with free trial

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Post by Dayshine »

wronglyprepaid wrote: post #89
cube2222 wrote: post #76

I've been using Copilot for a few months and... Yeah, it makes mistakes, sometimes it shows you i.e. the most common way to do something, even if that way has a bug in it. Yes, sometimes it writes a complete blunder. And yes again, sometimes there are very subtle logical mistakes in the code it proposes. But overall? It's been great ! Definitely worth the 10 bucks a month (especially with a developer salary). :insert…

> It's excellent for quickly writing slightly repetitive test cases; Ever considered parameterization?

Yes, it writes the different cases out for you. The arguments...
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