Live data from Hacker News

Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

alaskapublic.org

81–90 of 187 posts

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#81
Beyond the validity of the legal arguments, I wonder about the second-order impacts if this goes through.

For one thing I'd imagine there's a significant amount of private land with negligible monetary value because it lacks transportation infrastructure and the legal rights to construct such infrastructure. If local communities can convince the state to build roads through national parks, refuges, and wilderness areas I'd imagine the private lands around those areas will hugely increase in value. I wonder if this will kick off a land rush and drive more development in these areas.

The downside of course is that the ecological value of these lands would plummet, since many animals that roam or hunt require uninterrupted contiguous areas.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#82
post #81

Beyond the validity of the legal arguments, I wonder about the second-order impacts if this goes through. For one thing I'd imagine there's a significant amount of private land with negligible monetary value because it lacks transportation infrastructure and the legal rights to construct such infrastructure. If local communities can convince the state to build roads through national parks, refuges, and wilderness are…

[deleted]

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#83

Read Carter's amicus brief https://www.cartercenter.org/resources/pdfs/amicus-brief-jim... Carter's argument: Regardless of any facts surrounding the purpose of a road, the 1980 ANILCA did not authorise (Trump's) Secretary of the Interior to review and permit development in refuges on an ad-hoc basis, via section 2192(h)(1) land exchanges. A majority of a three-member panel of the Court of Appeals got it wrong. The C…

One wonders how the judges misinterpreted it.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#84
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

This logic leads to extinction of many animal species

And yet more spawn. You know they started cataloging species to "document gods work"; rooted in ignorance and ever since Darwin we know that is futile, and mostly silly.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#85
post #15

Looking at google maps, there's a ferry about 30 mile ride on the water. I don't know the route they're proposing, but maybe 60 miles over mountains. Ugh. The ambulance isn't going to be going 60 over washboard roads. The good people of Alaska can do whatever they want, but if the concern is medical emergencies, they should seriously consider keeping a plane at the airport, illuminate the airport, and make sure the r…

>The good people of Alaska can do whatever they want, but if the concern is medical emergencies, they should seriously consider keeping a plane at the airport, illuminate the airport, and make sure the runway stays plowed. Anchorage is about 900 miles away. A helicopter ride over to cold bay, then on a plane to Anchorage might be easier if they can keep a pilots on hand.

The issue is they can't get there.. the airport is already all weather.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#86
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does 97 year old Jimmy Carter have to gain from making a stand here? I cannot come up with any motivations besides the guy actually just wants to protect the wild. He grew up close to the land, so that makes sense to me.

Jimmy Carter grew up in Alaska? Never heard of that. I can't find a single occurrence of "alaska" in his Wikipedia article. Got any ref? Edit: I don't mind the downvote, but could someone explain if I missed something obvious?

Read the comment again ... slowly -- mod has a dense writing style that may be difficult to comprehend on first reading. People can actually live "close to the land" all over the world. Farmers, for example. I think a few may even be found in Georgia.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#88
post #5

Yes the resident logic is a bait and switch for further developments. Wilderness should stay wild. Leave it as is and do nothing. It's amazing how many powerful politicians and obviously lobbied individuals keep trying to change that.

Blaming “politicians” is a canard. People in Alaska want to develop their land for the same reason people in New York and California did—for economic development and jobs. If other folks value the wilderness so much, they should pay folks in Alaska not to develop their land.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#89
'Adverse development' is the term they use for the King Cove community's road to access an airport for emergency medical services. A group of rural Americans need access to a critical resource. They aren't building an open-pit mine.

'Trustees for Alaska' seems to be another majority out-of-state funded greenie organization that prioritizes a twisted anti-human agenda where if they got their way, entire villages would be eliminated and all of the residents relocated to an urban center.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

#90
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jimmy Carter grew up in Alaska? Never heard of that. I can't find a single occurrence of "alaska" in his Wikipedia article. Got any ref? Edit: I don't mind the downvote, but could someone explain if I missed something obvious?

"Close to the land" does not mean "close to that particular land."

Sorry for being obtuse, I genuinely don't get what that means. Don't almost every single person live close to the land?
Post reply on HN