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Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by wildmanx »

sph wrote: post #71
wildmanx wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For you and everybody else complaining about this aspect: This is open source software. GPL licensed. It's provided as-is. You are free to use it and express what you think about it, and the maintainers are equally free to do with your opinion whatever they like, which includes ignoring it. Clearly, none of the maintainers found this to be a problem. They likely don't need proxy settings for themselves. And they appa…

I hate this philosophy of yours with all my might. When you put something out there, you should strive to do right by your users. It is fine if you do not have time to fix a particular bug, but communication and asking for help should then be your priorities as maintainer. If 10 years of mostly silence on your part have passed, IMHO you have failed to be an effective open source maintainer. I understand that open sou…

> When you put something out there, you should strive to do right by your users.

We clearly disagree here.

I also like when some open source author is responsive after they put something out there. And I myself try to be helpful as well. After all, one of the reasons for me publishing things as open source is to attract a community that directly (through patches) or indirectly (through issue reports) helps me to improve the thing I made. Win-win!

But demanding this is actually actively hurtful to the ecosystem. To put it bluntly, would you prefer that somebody just doesn't publish some nice piece of software they wrote to scratch some itch they had just because they have no time/energy/desire to then provide support for users? I don't. I want them to publish it anyway. Maybe somebody else can pick up the maintenance. Or not, but at least it's out there.

> I hate this philosophy of yours with all my might.

"Hate" is a strong word. This is pretty sad.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by ChrisRR »

wildmanx wrote: post #63
HideousKojima wrote: post #17

Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019. Been using qBittorrent for a while now and like it far more than the (currently outdated) version of Deluge I had been using. Not really sure why this was posted here to be honest.

> Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019. This is GPL software made by people in their free time, for free. Apparently, the intersection of "people who want a Windows release", "people who have the skill to do it" and "people who want to do it for free" is empty. If you belong to all 3 groups, then please go ahead and provide a Windows release. If you don't then…

Commenting does not necessarily equal complaining.

They're simply saying that it doesn't have a windows release and so they use a different client.

As for their comment on why, I agree. This doesn't link to any news.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#83

Post by laurent123456 »

Thorentis wrote: post #48

qBittorrent ( https://www.qbittorrent.org ) is far superior. Cross platform, feature rich, actively developed.

On macOS qBitorrent is unusable if you hit a certain bug that regularly freezes the whole app. In my case, maybe due to that bug, it was also corrupting the downloaded data (which I didn't think was possible due to integrity checks).

I've switched to Transmission and never had any issues with corrupted data or freezes again.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by dvzk »

bartvk wrote: post #45

In my opinion, nobody (edit: who values their privacy) should use Deluge. There's an issue where proxy settings are ignored: https://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/2149 It's been open since 10 years, and this is not a great situation for a torrent client. Where torrents are concerned, proxies are explicitly used to protect privacy. Even in this very topic, someone said they were happy with the SOCKS proxy option in De…

It should be removed as an option, but in-application proxy leaks are also common. Application developers are typically not security experts, and built-in proxy implementations are frequently ancient or poorly implemented. Anyone very worried about privacy should be encouraged to use an audited modern alternative that tunnels all traffic from an interface or VM.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by no_time »

pkhamre wrote: post #18

Is torrents still a thing? Genuinely curious. It looks like a cool piece of software with lots of nice features, but I mean.. I don't need, as far as I know, a client-server stack for downloading stuff.

Among my generation? Very much so. I'm not sure about younger people. With phones being the main way of consuming endless content, having to put in any effort into staying in a private tracker or not getting wannacry'd from a public one seems less enticing.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by bartvk »

my80thaccount wrote: post #68
bartvk wrote: post #45

In my opinion, nobody (edit: who values their privacy) should use Deluge. There's an issue where proxy settings are ignored: https://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/2149 It's been open since 10 years, and this is not a great situation for a torrent client. Where torrents are concerned, proxies are explicitly used to protect privacy. Even in this very topic, someone said they were happy with the SOCKS proxy option in De…

This is a really bad look, but I would think that if opsec is important to you, you won't have your proxy configuration in application level settings of a Python app. I think the people who would be concerned about this use system wide VPNs or seed boxes.

SOCKS is sometimes used as an additional layer to privacy. Stock system level VPN will continue without VPN if the VPN server somehow drops the connection.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

wildmanx wrote: post #63
HideousKojima wrote: post #17

Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019. Been using qBittorrent for a while now and like it far more than the (currently outdated) version of Deluge I had been using. Not really sure why this was posted here to be honest.

> Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019. This is GPL software made by people in their free time, for free. Apparently, the intersection of "people who want a Windows release", "people who have the skill to do it" and "people who want to do it for free" is empty. If you belong to all 3 groups, then please go ahead and provide a Windows release. If you don't then…

>then please go ahead and provide a Windows release

People do provide unofficial Windows builds in the forums.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by enlyth »

wildmanx wrote: post #79
enlyth wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And because it's someone's free time project that doesn't bother to make releases for the most popular computing platform on Earth, it is somehow immune from criticism? Everything OP said is correct.

Sure it's correct. It's raining outside right now and I don't like it. That's also a correct statement. Just because it comes from the sky doesn't make it "somehow immune from criticism". But that's not a very meaningful complaint. I can complain about the rain all day. Will it change anything? No. In contrast to the rain, some feature missing in some open source project can be fixed. Put your energy into complaining…

"I don't like A because the authors don't care about my platform I prefer B"

Suddenly five thousand voices of open source zealots appear from nowhere, writing paragraphs and paragraphs about how it is morally outrageous to even suggest any sort of shortcoming, and you should immediately drop everything you're doing and contribute to the codebase yourself.

I know I'm getting a little flamebaity for HN standards, but this is what it genuinely feels like to me.

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