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Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by basisword »

motoxpro wrote: post #60

Dear Spotify, please do not go back to 2001. Thanks. On a serious note. If all you do is high intent searches (I know exactly the one song/podcast I want), Spotify is not for you. Spotify is about discovery. Stick to iTunes or Winamp or Kazaa or Youtube or anything else that just gives you a list of things. Don't make the product worse because you're using it for something it's not designed around.

Spotify is not “about discovery”. It’s supposed to be the service you use to play music (and now general audio). Whether that’s new music, old music, playlists, your library, it doesn’t matter. They want you to use Spotify for all your music needs.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by blenderdt »

orestis wrote: post #46

The truncated text is a huge peeve of mine with designers. I get that it’s hard to design a nice grid if you have to account for text that wrapped etc, but not everyone is called Tom Smith, and not all titles are 20 characters long. A designer I know advocated that users should be coaxed into using shorter titles and descriptions so that the UI looks good. It just makes me seethe.

I have been building websites for over 20 years and this has always been a problem. 99% of the designers also design texts that perfectly fit the design.

The end result is a bad experience for both the developer, the customer and the end user.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by spockz »

lapser wrote: post #43

Spotify is horrendous. Their UI is subpar. Their mix of podcasts with songs is odd at best (seriously, I never listen to podcasts, why can't I switch it off completely?). Their shuffle is just not. Imagine listening to the same 20ish songs from a playlist of nearly 2k songs. How can you mess up shuffle that bad? It's also not easy to move away from it. It requires time and effort. Time that many don't have.

> Their shuffle is just not. Imagine listening to the same 20ish songs from a playlist of nearly 2k songs. How can you mess up shuffle that bad?

I thought it was just me! I did notice that sometimes when this happens the numbers being skipped are “this song is currently not available for playback” or some such message.

I seem to listen to the same music a lot actually so just buying the CD would be more cost efficient.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by Nextgrid »

boesboes wrote: post #69

I f'ing hate spotify with a passion. The shit UX and them pushing JRE and other bullshit podcasts I dont want or need in my life was bad, but for me the final straw was that they decided to show me popups for their shit playlists when I was trying to put on one some music. Found out they have been doing it for years to people, and if you complain they basically refer you to the suggestion box and to go f yourself. I…

> Why would you want to torment paying customers like that?

That's the problem with today's tech industry. The objective is not money, it's "growth and engagement".

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by pigeonhole123 »

lemursage wrote: post #41
quickthrower2 wrote: post #2

Netflix and Amazon are terrible. Want to continue what you were watching? Gonna have to find where we hid that this time, g’luck!

Agreed, I feel that in the case of Netflix et al., it's just orders of magnitude more ridiculous -- may I just get the list of the films instead of being force spoon-fed crap content, please? I don't even know how to begin to tell the recommender engine that it's completely missing my preferences. That would be somewhat digestible if their search experience wasn't terrible as well -- no facet search, no dynamic categ…

It feels like these design choices are there to hide the fact that their catalog is tiny (maybe especially in Europe). The majority of what I search for just displays things that are similar to what I actually wanted to watch. For example if I search for Family Guy I get some off-brand Netflix cartoon in the "irreverent" category.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by wccrawford »

spaniard89277 wrote: post #84

I've got tired of this stuff so I just went back to downloading music. It has friction but in the end it's much better to have my music in my regular music player.

It really hampers discoverability, though. I've used Youtube Music for quite a while now, and I discovered a lot of songs that I really like. (And way more that I didn't.) Without a service pushing those other songs on me (and not listening to the radio with all its commercials!) I'm not sure how I'd find new songs, especially ones that came out years ago and I just never heard them.

This might even include genres that I wouldn't think to look in. I'm very picky about music, but it's across most genres so far. I can't really rule anything out... Even foreign music. `Alors En Danse` comes to mind quickly.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by sofixa »

mrweasel wrote: post #66
slowmotiony wrote: post #25

I like how the OP mentioned "Spotify's buddy, Apple Music". I work in IT for 15 years and I legit have problems navigating the app, I thought I must be stupid or something. Same with Tidal, just absolutely abhorrent UI where nothing makes any sense. Wanna go back to the Playlist you were literally just listening to a couple hours ago? That would be four clicks, three scrolls, a swipe and two jumping jacks. Want to li…

> I work in IT for 15 years and I legit have problems navigating the app I have the same issue, just with YouTube Music (regardless of platform). Other applications I cannot figure out how to navigate includes Slack and Snapchat. Snapchat is on the phone, of cause, but sometimes I just need to exit the app, because I can't figure out how to get back. Slack... I just don't know, it looks like one of those crazy Chines…

> because I can't figure out how to get back

Are you on iOS? IIRC it doesn't have a back button/gesture, unlike Android, and that's the only way that makes sense to me, but maybe I'm misunderstanding.

Regarding Slack, maybe it's different on iOS, but it looks relatively straightforward - on login you get the list of channels and DMs, you can click on one, and then go back with a button next to the channel name, which does a left to right animation which implies you can just swipe left-right for that thing. What else is there? Long press for message details/options is the same across many messaging apps.

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