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Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Not really. Office suites were a mistake. Return to text editor.

Imagine a world with something markdown-like instead of Word...

Less bullshit on formatting, far better content.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

>think they’ll be Jeff Bezos one day. I see that phrase thrown around a lot. It's a variant of "you're never going to be a billionaire (so you shouldn't be against X)." Why do people assume that you have to think you'll be a billionaire to be against something that would affect billionaires negatively? Is something only wrong if you think you'll find yourself in that position one day?

I think this counter argument is used when people are against something without offering a reason.

For example I often hear "The riches 1% pay 80% of the taxes" (or whatever the correct values are). The person makes this argument against the idea of raising taxes, however they aren't explaining why it shouldn't be done

Since they don't offer an explanation the assumption is they are either already rich or think they'll be rich.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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LibreOffice is actually pretty great, it's not "run on a Pentium 100 MHz" fast but it's stable and works well for basic office spreadsheet/word processing/powerpoint tasks.

It works well until you need to send and receive documents from MS Office organizations. LibreOffice mangles layouts and formatting in DOCX and PPTX files.

Get metric compatible fonts.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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I have zero confidence that this system is smart enough to differentiate between all these things and the legitimate variants thereof (e.g. collusion and cross team collaboration are basically indistinguishable) that companies actually want people doing or discussing and likely outnumber the bad by orders of magnitude.

Yeah and the sad thing is companies that don't know better will flip it on because "wow look at smart Microsoft's latest feature, we better use this!" and then inadvertently fire Sally in HR because her asking people to sign a card for the VP's birthday looked suspiciously like a violation of corporate gift policies.

next they'll offer MS AI HR that'll do that for you

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

>The demonization of unions is over the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It is possible to see unions as both the source of some and solution to other forms of abuse.

Yes I wanted to say something very similar. The idea of having an organization that collectively represents my interests against things I oppose (like this) feels good.

Unfortunately unions will not represent my interests in a huge swath of other areas (meritocracy, politics, etc). So choosing a union just trades one set of shitty things for another. For all but unskilled workers, the benefits are basically an illusion imo

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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> ... I am the 365 admin. For now. Remember MS can literally run these tools on your communications and if/when something gets flagged... raise it out-of-band to a senior business person at your company for follow up. They likely have the contact details for senior business people at your company already. ;)

What makes you think Microsoft would care about this? They provide the tools to make managers happy but they certainly aren't going to start running the tools for you.

They'll do it if it makes them richer.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

>think they’ll be Jeff Bezos one day. I see that phrase thrown around a lot. It's a variant of "you're never going to be a billionaire (so you shouldn't be against X)." Why do people assume that you have to think you'll be a billionaire to be against something that would affect billionaires negatively? Is something only wrong if you think you'll find yourself in that position one day?

Yeah it's not necessarily true. I think Innuendo Studios/Ian Danskin explains this mechanism very very well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzNANfNlTs

Many people think Jeff Bezos should exist and have his wealth because he got there by playing the game better than everyone else, and that this game is just the way things are. He earned it. Attempts to change the game will just make everything worse and people won't get what they deserve, and thus these attempts are unethical. Equal societies are an absurd liberal fantasy.

My attempts to advocate that Jeff Bezos shouldn't have the money he does are actually just selfish attempts to cheat at the game and stuff my own pockets with money and get something I haven't earned. The real issue here is a lack of discipline.

Watch the rest of the videos. People who think like this largely can't be argued with.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>think they’ll be Jeff Bezos one day. I see that phrase thrown around a lot. It's a variant of "you're never going to be a billionaire (so you shouldn't be against X)." Why do people assume that you have to think you'll be a billionaire to be against something that would affect billionaires negatively? Is something only wrong if you think you'll find yourself in that position one day?

I think this counter argument is used when people are against something without offering a reason. For example I often hear "The riches 1% pay 80% of the taxes" (or whatever the correct values are). The person makes this argument against the idea of raising taxes, however they aren't explaining why it shouldn't be done Since they don't offer an explanation the assumption is they are either already rich or think they'…

That’s assuming people can’t be purely altruistic and principled and they must hold every position they do for personal gain.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

>The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. >The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. You realize that the power/existence of "labor organization ie unionization" is dependent on the government? Without government protection labor unions don't stand a chance.

You realize that historically labor unions predated government laws about labor unions, right?

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

I shouldn't have to belong to a particular organization (especially a politically active one) in order to have a job in my field.
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