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Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#81

The only thing missing on Firefox for me is the ability to translate websites inline. Otherwise Firefox+ multi-account containers + proxy per container is a really nice feature

there is an addon which integrates very cleanly, they should just merge that into the browser

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#82
I always use Firefox, but there is one annoying thing they do not seem able to fix: The debugger. It often happens to me, that I can step through code, but I simply cannot see the value of variables at all, not by hovering, not by adding them to watched variables. This often happens when working on JupyterLab. And some days it works suddenly. Maybe JupyterLab has become so overheady, that the debugger gives up or something. No idea. When it does not work, I just use GNU Guix as follows:

guix shell ungoogled-chromium -- chromium

(a double minus there)

That runs an instance of ungoogled Chromium without me having to install it in the system packages or so. After the first time the build should be cached until you update your Guix packages and start up quite quickly.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#83
post #30

I honestly want to ditch Firefox and try a Chromium browser for a minute [1], but I'm stuck on Firefox because it's the only one with a killer feature: send a tab to/from iOS and my Linux desktop. I skip Chrome and Edge for privacy reasons, Brave have a crappy and buggy sync feature that I don't know what OSes it supports, but not my combination. Can't send tabs with them. Vivaldi doesn't have an iOS port. Impossible…

> I'm starting to see broken sites What are some examples of this? I keep seeing this complaint and I keep asking for examples but I always get "just various sites"-like answers. FF is my primary browser and I am not seeing it. I am genuinely curious as to whether it is starting to fall behind but I can recall maybe two or three instances the past couple of years where I opened a site in Brave to see if it worked the…

I've had problems when organizing online tournaments using Challonge. I've had to switch to Chrome a few times to do something, since it would regularly break in FF. Also their support page requires you to enter a combination of keys to reveal the email address: sadly this didn't work in FF, too. I've had a few other problems over time, but none that I remember off the top of my head. I've used FF for the past 15+ years and don't usually mind small problems, though.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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post #30

I honestly want to ditch Firefox and try a Chromium browser for a minute [1], but I'm stuck on Firefox because it's the only one with a killer feature: send a tab to/from iOS and my Linux desktop. I skip Chrome and Edge for privacy reasons, Brave have a crappy and buggy sync feature that I don't know what OSes it supports, but not my combination. Can't send tabs with them. Vivaldi doesn't have an iOS port. Impossible…

You can already do this on brave, with brave sync enabled.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#86
post #59

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Is this serious? Your criciticism is that... they offer their service and the possibility to self-host?

No, I meant, they make it look like you could do this all easily without external clouds, but then the Identity-server, which I cannot imagine to be much more complicated w.r.t. functionality that e.g. a Samba4 AD-DC, is/was(last time i checked) basically undocumented and looked intentionally overbuilt (again, comparing with e.g. Samba4-AD). And not open-source (iirc). Also, why can't I use a standard Directory Serve…

The Firefox Sync Storage source code, licensed under MPL-2.0 and fully documented, is right here:

https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs

It includes a Docker Compose setup.

Standard directory servers aren't specifically built for end-to-end encryption, while data in Firefox Sync is end-to-end encrypted by default. Firefox Sync must also scale to support the millions of Firefox users who use Mozilla's instance.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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> I'm starting to see broken sites What are some examples of this? I keep seeing this complaint and I keep asking for examples but I always get "just various sites"-like answers. FF is my primary browser and I am not seeing it. I am genuinely curious as to whether it is starting to fall behind but I can recall maybe two or three instances the past couple of years where I opened a site in Brave to see if it worked the…

I use firefox and don't see broken sites per se, but there are many sites where performance, especially js performance, suffers. Gmail and other Google sites are sluggish for example, as well as Amazon. It sometimes takes a minute after visiting amazon.com for their js to initialize and I can begin to interact with the site. This is not the case for chromium. I stick with firefox because of multi-account containers,…

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Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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post #58

I use Libre Wolf, which is a pre-configured Firefox with enhanced privacy. They still support the FF Sync stuff. Similarly for vscode, there is vscodium.

I recently switched to LibreWolf too where the privacy setting involve opting in to keeping instead of destroying cookies, WebGL support, etc. I know that when upstream Fx pushes a new feature, the LibreWolf team will choose the strict privacy option as the default.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#89
I don't know how long I'm using FF, a couple years of Opera ages ago, some time with the early Chrome when FF was a hog but now I'm on FF only on Mac, iOS and Linux. It is perfect for every use case of mine, also it is fantastic on iOS.

There is only one reason why I'm using Chrome: at work we use Google Workshit for Business or whatever it is called now and every Google service has issues anywhere besides Chrome and it is getting worse as the time goes by. Meet is terribly unreliable and since some months simply won't open the calls because of some unknown error, Docs and Sheets cannot be edited, Drive is slow as fuck and sometimes doesn't finish loading the page, Gmail has low res icons and is significantly slower, etc...

Don't be evil... go fuck yourself!

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm starting to see broken sites What are some examples of this? I keep seeing this complaint and I keep asking for examples but I always get "just various sites"-like answers. FF is my primary browser and I am not seeing it. I am genuinely curious as to whether it is starting to fall behind but I can recall maybe two or three instances the past couple of years where I opened a site in Brave to see if it worked the…

I use firefox and don't see broken sites per se, but there are many sites where performance, especially js performance, suffers. Gmail and other Google sites are sluggish for example, as well as Amazon. It sometimes takes a minute after visiting amazon.com for their js to initialize and I can begin to interact with the site. This is not the case for chromium. I stick with firefox because of multi-account containers,…

Google sites have long been suspected to do things intentionally in a way that is only optimizing for Chrom(e/ium), maybe even intentionally slow on other browsers, which is mostly Firefox. No surprise there at all.

However I do not see this stuff about JS init to take that long on amazon. It might be a special thing in your case. Did you try things like a new profile, to test, whether it still happens?

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