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Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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It's open-source and mostly or entirely licensed under the GPLv3, so I don't think HP would've needed to license it.

They stuck the Pop!_OS logo right up by the HP logo at the top of the page; I would be astonished if they didn't have some sort of legal agreement to use the trademark.

Is it common to have a proprietary/trademarked logo for an otherwise entirely open source project? That seems a little silly to me but I'm not really aware of what is standard.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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The 16:9 screen is an immediate turn off for me. on a machine of this size that extra screen real estate you get with 16:10 or even 3:2 is important to me. Shame too, because this could be the perfect machine for me.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

#83

To be brutally honest, this looks like a very lame laptop.

For $1000 it looks ok to me!

I guess it's not surprising that a forum full of tech professionals would ignore price when judging things, but the fact that it's fairly cheap absolutely is important for a tonne of people.

Not everyone needs enough ram to simultaneously run a bunch of VMs and train a neural network and edit 4k video all at the same time lol.

(Although 16gb is almost a non starter for Unreal Engine development, and that does run on Linux albeit with some prerequisite yak shaving)

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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While I agree I'm being picky; for you, what's the minimal spec OEM machine that would still necessitate that comment? If somebody came out today with a machine with 2GB of RAM, a 1024x600 display, and a 128GB SSD; we'd all agree that that's not a developer machine. So what's the minimum for you?

2012 MacBook Air with 8GB ram. Not ideal but I did found and bootstrap my entire startup just a few years ago using one.

With that said, there are many caveats. The most glaring is that developer needs inevitably vary depending on the project and tooling requirements. For example, at my current day job, the computer I physically use is primarily a gateway to other, more powerful computers and systems.

Doing anything at real scale leads to the eventuality that the world can't fit on and be run from a single notebook sized / spec'd machine.

My comment in this case was triggered more by the way op phrased and presented their needy needs, I interpreted it as unreasonably narrow and selfishly entitled. I've encountered enough, neigh too many odd ducks IRL who come across this way and experientially, they've been "Homer Car" types every single time.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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I've been spoiled by Framework/Macbooks/some Chromebooks and wouldn't ever consider a laptop with a 16:9 screen instead of something like 3:2. I also hope the RAM isn't soldered to the board.

Other than those two nitpicks though this seems like a pretty solid offering. The fact they're only offering POP_OS! on a single laptop is probably both a blessing and a curse - it kinda sucks, but it also means hardware compatibility should be really solid.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They stuck the Pop!_OS logo right up by the HP logo at the top of the page; I would be astonished if they didn't have some sort of legal agreement to use the trademark.

Is it common to have a proprietary/trademarked logo for an otherwise entirely open source project? That seems a little silly to me but I'm not really aware of what is standard.

I'm pretty sure it's decently common; Red Hat certainly does it, Ubuntu is nice and keeps a wiki page of what derivatives need to change and when (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto#Trademarks), opensuse has https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines#Distri... to discuss how much you can use their trademarks, and even Debian has a trademark policy - https://www.debian.org/trademark - although it's about as permissive as you could hope for IMO.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Offset trackpad is a 100% deal breaker for me, sorry. It could support 64GB and Libreboot and I would pass.

The offset is due to the presence of a pointer/trackpoint/whatever you call it. Otherwise, you’d need to use two hands to click the mouse buttons while using it.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it common to have a proprietary/trademarked logo for an otherwise entirely open source project? That seems a little silly to me but I'm not really aware of what is standard.

I'm pretty sure it's decently common; Red Hat certainly does it, Ubuntu is nice and keeps a wiki page of what derivatives need to change and when ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto#Trademarks ), opensuse has https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines#Distri... to discuss how much you can use their trademarks, and even Debian has a trademark policy - https://www.debian.org/trademark - although…

I guess you would have to trademark your logo to stop people from slapping it on things that don't even use the product. It's nice to explicitly spell out that you won't actually go after people who aren't doing anything silly.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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I'm not going to critique this laptop as others have done here. Just over $1K for a laptop with an 8 core Ryzen, 16GB DDR4 and a 1TB SSD isn't outrageous. The main takeaways I get from this are that HP is now getting on the Linux developer bandwagon, and that they chose Pop!_OS as their distro due to the success and reputation of System76. And I think these are both good things, and a sign that we'll see more of the…

Definitely. Imagine a world where perennially late to the market HP is chasing the trend of Linux on the laptop. We now live in that world.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31391880

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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I want to like this, but I feel like 32GB of RAM is minimum if I were buying a new laptop. I’ve been heavily eyeing the Framework but I’d prefer AMD. This had AMD but is limited to 16GB of RAM… lots of unnecessary tradeoffs being made here.

What workload do you do that 16GB isn't enough? Compiling large database backed .NET projects and Rust projects and AAA gaming all fit fine in 16GB
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