Do you own a Macbook with touch bar? Use Safari and skip ads by using the scrubbing feature of the touch bar. No adblock needed, all ads skippable, and they're none the wiser.
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Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
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Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#82That's why a pay for Youtube Premium. I find it irrealistic to expect to be able to access youtube content without either paying for it or having to watch ads.
Nothing is free, ever. Even public education is paid by people's taxes.
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#83Just gonna leave this link to ublock origin here. If nothing else, install it as a small "fuck you" to dark patterns: Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin... Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa...
And I'll leave this here: https://sponsor.ajay.app/ This also skips the sponsored parts of the actual videos ("this video is sponsored by skillshadow raid vpn,...")
I think this kind of add-skipping is worse.
It is 'stealing' from the content creators rather than youtube. Besides, these ads are not based on surveillance capitalism but much less invasive old-school methods. Finally, there is much easier recourse against these ads. Don't watch content creators that have annoying adds. There are not many alternatives to youtube, but there are many alternatives to any given channel.
Personally I also believe that in-content ads are much less annoying. I think that is because the content-creator gets to push back on really annoying adds.
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#84People complain a lot about Youtube ads and how awful they are but as a thought experiment I once tried to imagine the amount of storage and bandwidth Youtube must need everyday to operate. So after some basic research it looks like they need to add almost 1 petabytes of storage and I couldn't find much info on the bandwidth and servers it uses. As much as I don't like Google for their shady business practices, I cou…
google and YouTube generate insane profits. they could show fewer ads and it would not impair the functionality of YouTube
Who gets to decide what is an "insane" profit? You?
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#85Recently, I've been with people who unlike me don't have youtube premium and I loathe the ads. I'm so happy I pay for premium so I don't have to experience this. I want to say "subscription is the right answer" but it clearly isn't enough for some people (netflix).
The main reason I don't want to pay is it cannot remove the ads the content creators put in themselves. I could see paying if it was a totally clean experience but to pay and get rid of part/half of the ads I would see does not seem worth it to me.
Even setting aside the explicit ads, there's also the fact that the vast majority of YouTube content has been diluted and corrupted to be a vehicle for YouTube ads.
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#86Recently, I've been with people who unlike me don't have youtube premium and I loathe the ads. I'm so happy I pay for premium so I don't have to experience this. I want to say "subscription is the right answer" but it clearly isn't enough for some people (netflix).
The main reason I don't want to pay is it cannot remove the ads the content creators put in themselves. I could see paying if it was a totally clean experience but to pay and get rid of part/half of the ads I would see does not seem worth it to me.
Ignoring the ethical debate, the "SponsorBlock" browser plugin can help to avoid native advertising inside videos. When in use, sections marked as ads or other filler content are automatically skipped. It is crowdsourced, so you can mark up a video yourself and contribute it, if the ads haven't already been marked by someone else.
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#87This doesn't sound much like a dark pattern to me. I think they probably have a few variations they use based on the length of the ad, and some agreement with the sponsor, but that's just speculation.
It would be much more evil if sometimes the "see more about this product" button was where the "skip ad" button was, so that users who were reflexively clicking it would get sent to the sponsor.
Has anybody here ever been so confused by these variants that you watched more than an additional 1/4th of a second of the ad?
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#88This is why I use uBlock Origin. I don't feel guilty if I have to put up with such asshole design. I would much rather have (even non-hideable) text ads in the bottom. Something similar to what they used a long time ago. Likewise with many Polish entertainment/content aggregator/news websites - there are goddamn ads in the BACKGROUND of the page! Ugh! Just look at this beauty: https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c0834752/436c59…
Do you pay creators in some ways?
how did creators make money before the invention of annoying ads?
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#89Don't forget the "oh, I see you didn't skip the first ad. Let me play a much longer second ad".
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#90People complain a lot about Youtube ads and how awful they are but as a thought experiment I once tried to imagine the amount of storage and bandwidth Youtube must need everyday to operate. So after some basic research it looks like they need to add almost 1 petabytes of storage and I couldn't find much info on the bandwidth and servers it uses. As much as I don't like Google for their shady business practices, I cou…
I often feel that the 90's child me would slap me across the face in disgust at how casually I take for granted the age of magic we live in now.
I distinctly remember waiting an appreciable amount of time to download a single Metallica mp3 on dialup as a middle schooler - maybe 20, 25 minutes? for a ~3 minute song - and a 2GB Linux distro took me like 30 seconds a few weeks ago.
I'm simultaneously hopeful for what we'll be doing 20, 30 years from now, but also worried that the rate of progress is slowing (because I am by definition comparing now to the very very early days of the modern internet).