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Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if I see what you mean. My go-to sneakers have a white trim along the bottom edge and it's just... there? Yes, over time it gets dirty, but then again, so do all shoes in general. Perhaps I simply don't understand what problem you're trying to highlight?

You and everybody else. This is where the putty comes in.

Can you elaborate what you consider the problem to be?

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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It is, however, hard to find these sorts of razors. If you go into a shop to buy a razor, you will almost certainly not be able to buy one - but you will be faced with a wide range of very similar cartridge razors. The double edged razor has become a product that you can only buy on the internet, and which you will only buy if you know that it exists. This was true -- in about 2010. My local CVS has three or four DE…

In the UK, the bigger Boots used to have cheap safety handles and blades (at least ~5 years ago when I was using them.) I'd guess they're probably in the bigger Superdrugs as well. There's also a bunch of smaller brands like Truefitt & Hill, Mühle, etc., that have physical shops in London which sell them.

Definitely not "you can only buy on the internet".

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

#83

I've used a straight razor for almost 20 years. Vindicating to read that the price of a Dovo pays for itself. I think my bar of shaving soap is probably the better part of decade old as well. In the interim, a whole peculiar subculture around shaving has developed, but you don't have to be a part of it to just use a razor. Makes you unreachable by corporate marketing as well, which is itself its own reward.

Aside from differences in cost, do you find anything about a straight razor compellingly better than e.g. a Gillette Mach 3? I go through Mach 3 cartridges pretty slowly, so price isn't a big concern. And I don't notice anything deficient about the quality of my shaves. But one thing I really like about safety razors is that there's zero risk of serious injury.

Less plastic waste. All the waste is just some steel. The bar soap lasts me forever. I get closer shaves too.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

#84

There is maybe another reason why cartridge razors are standard now, apart from the lower upfront cost: They are foolproof. It's more or less impossible to hurt yourself with it. On the other hand, it's absolutly possible to cut yourself with a double edge / safety razor, as you have to handle a razor blade and you can scratch yourself quite badly if you don't hold it at the right angle. But IMO, as with many of the…

DE / security razors completely surprised me with ease of use. You can cut yourself... but it's pretty difficult.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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I switched to shaving with the double edge safety razor 15 years ago from the cartridge style and haven't looked back. I get a better shave for considerably less money. I find that I can shave daily and get a week's worth of shaves before replacing the blade, each of which costs just pennies. Coupled with using a soap puck and badger hair shaving brush, I'm completely satisfied with my shaving ritual.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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I've used a straight razor for almost 20 years. Vindicating to read that the price of a Dovo pays for itself. I think my bar of shaving soap is probably the better part of decade old as well. In the interim, a whole peculiar subculture around shaving has developed, but you don't have to be a part of it to just use a razor. Makes you unreachable by corporate marketing as well, which is itself its own reward.

Aside from differences in cost, do you find anything about a straight razor compellingly better than e.g. a Gillette Mach 3? I go through Mach 3 cartridges pretty slowly, so price isn't a big concern. And I don't notice anything deficient about the quality of my shaves. But one thing I really like about safety razors is that there's zero risk of serious injury.

For me I found that I get much less razor burn with a safety razor. Whenever I shaved with a Mach 3 or another 3 blade cartridge razor, I would always get razor burn on my neck from the two additional blades. Never had that issue with a safety razor.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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post #5

And RMS was right again.

If you really start obsessing over money you're going look like something between Richard Stallman and the Unabomber, and not just in your facial hair.

What's funny about Stallman is that he looks exceedingly well-maintained, even indulgent, compared to the average Unix hacker. Razors are really a Roman military thing, aren't they? When you look at the Parthians, the Macedonians, the Cappadocians, the Phoenicians, the Gauls, the Germans--all bearded. All basically Unix hackers, of a sort. But we imitate the Roman legions for some reasons.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Yes, modern razors are a scam; they have AMAZING marketing teams. You still can buy old-style razors and blades cheap from Amazon because there's still a healthy demand. As for the rest of the article: > Cooking equipment: essentially indestructible Cast Iron skillets transition into teflon pans. The newer pans perform worse, and must be replaced on a shockingly regular basis. They also seem to be poisonous. No, no,…

> Their lifespan is unchanged. You can continue to use them as "dumb" screens using HDMI input and plug in an external device. You can also buy a smart TV and never connect it to the internet.

That does not mean that the smart features will not work tirelessly against your attempt to use the device as a dumb display. Menus you don’t want, EULA prompts that cover almost the entire UI, and weird spottiness in the CEC support that one can only assume is designed to fuck with you. And it’s buggy! It’s really buggy. On one of my TVs, I have to hold the power button down to entirely reboot it frequently for it to see the HDMI signal on one of my outputs. Otherwise.. it just sits on a gray screen. Sometimes I also get a loading spinner (!?) or, despite it having been set up for about a year, a “detecting device, please wait” message. I have manually set the type of device to PC on both of the TWO HDMI ports (yes, two, hope you have your own HDMI switch.)

Of course, there’s no convenient way to hook up speakers to these modern marvels of technology. At least not the speakers you already own. If you want to stick to what the manufacturer wants, you need an HDMI ARC port and a soundbar: a worse speaker that sounds like shit and costs more and sometimes might only fully work with some TVs. It eats an entire HDMI port, though some of them provide it back to you less conveniently.

I see your optimism, and I raise my burning inferno of rage towards smart TVs.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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My dad never taught me how to shave, and for the longest time I just used these disposable Gillette style blades, and got terrible results. Missed spots, cuts and skin infections. At some point I decided to do some research and settled on double edge disposable blades. I've never been happier, and feel much better about my skin too. These are the products I use: * A wooden synthetic shaving brush (I felt bad about th…

I fall into roughly the same setup. I use Feather blades from Japan (which are a “premium” option) and a 100 pack lasted me 8 years for about $40. Even for nice stuff it is so cheap per shave.

I ended up coming across the idea to try this on Art of Manliness about a decade ago and probably never would have thought to try it otherwise. https://www.artofmanliness.com/style/shaving/how-to-shave-wi...

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

#90
post #40

It’s not a conspiracy, it’s just convenience. Shaving with a Mach3 is a hell of a lot easier than a DE. Cooking with a Teflon pan is a hell of a lot easier than looking after a carbon steel skillet. The vast majority of people have busy lives, and don’t want to deal with that hassle. For those of us who do, great.

It is not more inconvenient to use cast iron. I dont have to throw away pans and i am not worried about poisooning my family anymore.

The wet razor is much more convenient than the plastic waste. No to mention the enormous environmental cost of slight inconvenience

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