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IBM's Asshole Test

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Re: IBM's Asshole Test

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Agreed! Though, just a note that if you use them, you need to use them as your nameservers for your domain (the whole domain) (at least for the free tier) ... maybe doesn't matter for most people, but something that's put me off massively :D

Pretty sure that is not true.

it's pretty much step one of signing up with cloudlare - how else are they going to control visitors?

Re: IBM's Asshole Test

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I would probably fail this test as someone who has been accused before in professional settings of being an 'asshole' due to my speaking method.

When the reality is far far less interesting: the combination of a pathological speech condition (which I covered up early as a child by mumbling a lot and thus picked up some bad enunciation habits), and inheriting a deep voice historically made me come off as bored and disinterested when really...I just have one of those voices that doesn't come across as exactly.... 'animated' when it hits your ears for the first time.

In fact...think Shaquille O'Neil and you're pretty close to how it sounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROPsn3O6JAw

Re: IBM's Asshole Test

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You don't require a degree in human psychology to evaluate if someone is a team player in a group assessment. I've been assessed during a similar group assessment (we had to work together to produce a layout for a shopping centre), and also been an assesser for one of these excercises. All you are really trying to identify are: 1) The people that won't help others, and will intentionally try to throw other candidates…

Who's not the team player in this story? The person who stands up and tries to provide some leadership in a situation that has stalled?

How did they do that? A couple possibilities:

1. "You're all being mired in nonsense. Give me the board, hand me the packets, and I'll show you how it's done."

2. "Okay, let's organize this somehow. I'll make a list of related widgets and gadgets. Becky, can you see if we all have the same dooh-dad structure?"

I'd say 1 is an asshole, and 2 is a Team Player™

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I am fairly sure Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos & Elon Musk would have failed this test. Are you better off having them at your company or not?

Similarly I wonder how many of those "top-of-the-foodchain" software devs and system architects were dropped during earlier job applications elsewhere, only because some brainfart caused them to fail the stupid code challenge.

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This sounds so weird, people without any expertise in human psychology are in-charge of a behavior detection exercise. The worst part, those who got in were the new experts in 6-months.

Take this with a pinch of salt, but I read an anecdote on Reddit a long time ago about a corporation in New York (I think it was a bank) where an executive was looking for a new VP/Director/something. He found a potential candidate and invited him to a one-on-one lunch. When the candidate placed his order, the executive discreetly told the waiter to bring the wrong order for the candidate. The point was to see how th…

Interesting.

Honestly, I'm the guy who would just "roll with it" and eat whatever was brought to me because I honestly can't bring the energy to arguing with the waiter.

But having hired people and other professionals, I almost always hire the person who would assert themselves and demand the right thing be done.

Why?

Well, I recognize that I don't like to be "that guy". So I hire people who can do it for me. It has always worked out quite well in the past, where I've been able to form a team of people who work well together, but can be assertive to external groups. (And I, of course, only need to get out of their way.)

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Decades ago, in the days before uber, my employer would fly in candidates from college campuses as part of an onsite interview. The candidate would fly in the night before and we relied on a taxi service to bring the candidate to the hotel. Then in the morning the same service would bring them to the onsite and of course bring them back to the airport at the end. It was a whole curated process. Little did the candida…

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Re: IBM's Asshole Test

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's not the team player in this story? The person who stands up and tries to provide some leadership in a situation that has stalled?

How did they do that? A couple possibilities: 1. "You're all being mired in nonsense. Give me the board, hand me the packets, and I'll show you how it's done." 2. "Okay, let's organize this somehow. I'll make a list of related widgets and gadgets. Becky, can you see if we all have the same dooh-dad structure?" I'd say 1 is an asshole, and 2 is a Team Player™

...but the recollection doesn't differentiate between these two so it doesn't seem to be the important factor?

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The two aren't mutually exclusive, you could've easily started out with salary + stock options that would've put you in a better position to start a side gig. Then you might actually be driving a lambo now too ;)

Speaking from experience or from the ass? In my experience a startup is all consuming.

tarsnap is a one man show and he's not building a startup. he could've easily worked at Google, take advantage of the rising stock prices AND continue work on his SaaS. Lot of us do exactly that because it doesn't make sense to leave a good paying job at a large company to take on tremendous risk at as you said, consuming endeavour with small probability of success (+90% failure rate).

I don't get why people are so upset at my comment or why that should warrant ad hominem attacks.

I merely mentioned that parent could've had a job at Google and benefited from it. He made it sound like it was a power move, it really wasn't. My argument is only that he took on even more risk by not taking advantage of Google's offer and growing stock prices to fund his passion. He doesn't seem like the type to get distracted by a day job either.

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This sounds so weird, people without any expertise in human psychology are in-charge of a behavior detection exercise. The worst part, those who got in were the new experts in 6-months.

You don't require a degree in human psychology to evaluate if someone is a team player in a group assessment. I've been assessed during a similar group assessment (we had to work together to produce a layout for a shopping centre), and also been an assesser for one of these excercises. All you are really trying to identify are: 1) The people that won't help others, and will intentionally try to throw other candidates…

Yes, you do need a degree. However you react in this artificial situation in which you are grouped up with seven stranger has no bearing on your performance as an engineer. Furthermore, if you had a degree in psychology and wanted to perform an experiment like this you would need to seek approval from an ethics committee and they would turn down your request because the experiment is fucking stupid. Whoever devised this "IBM Asshole Test" is the real asshole here.

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When I interviewed at Google in 2006, one of the interviewers asked me to write code for solving a particular problem. I replied along the lines of "ok I need to think about this, it's not obvious how to solve it" and started thinking. Time ticked away. Five minutes. Ten minutes. Fifteen minutes. The interviewer started reminding me that he needed me to write some code and if there wasn't anything for him to copy dow…

To be fair, engineers didn't all have smartphones that could take great photos in 2006.

Did anyone have a smartphone that could take great photos in 2006?
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