"Milk alternatives" (i.e. products marketed as such) are only so in the same sense that any food is a milk alternative, namely that they can both provide nutrition. That's about as far as the similarity goes.
Milk alternatives produce up to 4.5x less greenhouse gas emissions as milk
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#82Questions that come to mind: 1. What percentage of land use for dairy cows is arable? 2. What percentage of water consumed by dairy cows is recycled (eg from rain water), how does that compare to something like almonds? 3. What percentage of greenhouse gas emissions are added to the environment over already existing in the environment and just being moved?
"Are Cows really Bad for the Planet? Why did we start blaming them?":
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#83I'm not vegan or anything, but I've found oat milk not only tastes great on cereal etc, but it also keeps fresh for much longer in the fridge. I've pretty much given up buying cow's milk now days, unless I have a specific recipe or something that calls for it. Cheese, on the other hand, I can't see myself giving up any time soon!
When it comes to Oatly... It tastes good, but that's because it contains plenty of sugars. You'll notice the difference when you make your own oat milk from oats. It's tastes quite terrible actually. Oatly adds enzymes to break down the starches to sugar. https://www.gq.com/story/oatly-nutrition-ipo
Is that not a good thing? Starches break down into sugars in the body anyway and presumably have similar deleterious effects on the liver. May as well enjoy tasting them.
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I don’t see what your point is… this isn’t an either or thing. It’s not literally milk, but these are clearly milk substitutes, where people use them when they would otherwise use milk.
A fake Rolex produces up to 4.5x less greenhouse gas emissions than a real one. Would that matter for collectors? PS. I don't care about watches at all, btw.
Is there some sort of milk collectors guild I don’t know about?
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#86I heard that the trendy thing to do now in coffee shops is to ask for your drink to be made with regular cow milk.
"Milk" still means "cows milk" at every coffee shop I've been to, and I would be embarrassed to say "cows milk", as if I'm importing some internet culture war into the real world. Literally everyone will know what you mean if you say "with milk", unless you are at some specifically vegan coffee shop.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
The milk alternatives that can achieve the same foaminess can cost 2x the price of regular milk, so I guess it makes sense
Which milk alternatives can achieve the same foaminess?
If you want something even more foamy, try Wunda Milk.
In a blender, the foam can double the height of the drink - so fill the container only half full
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#89I'm not vegan or anything, but I've found oat milk not only tastes great on cereal etc, but it also keeps fresh for much longer in the fridge. I've pretty much given up buying cow's milk now days, unless I have a specific recipe or something that calls for it. Cheese, on the other hand, I can't see myself giving up any time soon!
When it comes to Oatly... It tastes good, but that's because it contains plenty of sugars. You'll notice the difference when you make your own oat milk from oats. It's tastes quite terrible actually. Oatly adds enzymes to break down the starches to sugar. https://www.gq.com/story/oatly-nutrition-ipo
So does cow milk. 7g* of added sugar in a cup of Oatly, about 8g of various sugars in a cup of milk. Oatly add the sugar to more closely simulate the flavour of milk, but it tastes about as sweet... and both are way too sweet if you ask me.
*The nutrition profile is a bit more complicated as I think they add enzymes to break down starches in the oats, so you end up with more sugar even though it's not technically "added".
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#90This isn't really giving enough context. It's absolutely true that per volume, plant products are going to beat dairy handily in resource usage. But, they aren't remotely 1:1 products. Basically, almond milk is a good "per volume" replacement for low-fat milk products for applications like pouring on cereal or mixing in coffee. And... not much else. The bulk of dairy production isn't for "milk" at all, it goes into d…
Thanks for pointing this out, I agree that the article should have mentioned this! I bet this varies widely from country to country too. (e.g. the French probably have a higher cheese-to-fluid ratio than other countries)
Even though it doesn't represent the majority of milk usage, maybe we shouldn't dismiss fluid milk entirely, since it's an easy first step.