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Something to consider is when adding more panels brings your total installation power over the limit of your net metering agreement.
The intverter should be able to be configured with export limits. In a lot of jurisdictions that's mandatory anyway. Still better to over-specify so that in Winter you get the full amount while in Summer you just throw some away. Or take up a power-intensive hobby like Bitcoin mining in Summer.
I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
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> $3 per watt, installed on your roof is typical these days Which is why I was so fascinated by someone saying that you could get panels at 250USD/400W=0.625USD/W; I suppose it's possible that all the other stuff (electrician, mounting, inverters) is the difference, but a factor of 5? That feels like an chance to do something hacky and come out way ahead (like, say, DIYing a panel to run your computers, thus cutting…
In the US a large part of what you’re paying for is the sales and marketing cost. Prices in the UK & Europe are lot lower per watt.
For example, https://www.leroymerlin.es/fp/88110787/panel-solar-risen-445...
Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
The intverter should be able to be configured with export limits. In a lot of jurisdictions that's mandatory anyway. Still better to over-specify so that in Winter you get the full amount while in Summer you just throw some away. Or take up a power-intensive hobby like Bitcoin mining in Summer.
As I understand, the limits regulate the total capacity of the installation not the actual amount of electricity produced.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> $3 per watt, installed on your roof is typical these days Which is why I was so fascinated by someone saying that you could get panels at 250USD/400W=0.625USD/W; I suppose it's possible that all the other stuff (electrician, mounting, inverters) is the difference, but a factor of 5? That feels like an chance to do something hacky and come out way ahead (like, say, DIYing a panel to run your computers, thus cutting…
In the US a large part of what you’re paying for is the sales and marketing cost. Prices in the UK & Europe are lot lower per watt.
Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
The intverter should be able to be configured with export limits. In a lot of jurisdictions that's mandatory anyway. Still better to over-specify so that in Winter you get the full amount while in Summer you just throw some away. Or take up a power-intensive hobby like Bitcoin mining in Summer.
As I understand, the limits regulate the total capacity of the installation not the actual amount of electricity produced.
Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
#86Then I realised couple of things, an humbling experience:
1) given any position on earth, you can compute exactly what's the optimal inclination at any given point in time for a PV to maximize the energy production. Sure, there are reflection and secondary irradiation conditions (eg.: there is a lake close to it), but again, assuming the environment is static, it's way faster to just compute it statically rather than dynamically. Also, in most scenarios Beam irradiance from diffusion (the beam hitting the object) is order of magnitude higher than from reflective one (the same beam bouncing on a 3rd object first).
2) In mechanics movable part are the things to avoid. They have lower MTBF (mean time before failure) and as such they introduce complexity and increase cost
3) Economics is a key component of engineering. There is a cost to everything, the computational power, the energy needed by the servo, etc, etc. Given 1 and 2, a dynamic solution simply has a lower ROI than a static one.
I really appreciate the OP exploration here: there is a good overview of basic control theory and a good foundation of ML (although don't be deceived, this is a very simple modelling task that OP is overkilling with a way more complex model). That said, for everyone reading, this is not something you want to do in a real world situation.
Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
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#88Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
#89I used to be like OP. (have a similar background and have similar interests in tech for the planet) Then I realised couple of things, an humbling experience: 1) given any position on earth, you can compute exactly what's the optimal inclination at any given point in time for a PV to maximize the energy production. Sure, there are reflection and secondary irradiation conditions (eg.: there is a lake close to it), but…
Commodity fixed angle ground mount photovoltaics arrays are low cost.
If you do the dollar and kWh produced in year calculation for spending $40,000 on fixed mount ground pv, and $40k on a combination of pv panels on trackers, and compare the kWh proxied by both... The fixed ground mount comes out far ahead.
A tracking mount can make sense only if you have a VERY small amount of space to work with and want the absolute most kWh per month per square meter of area occupied on the ground. And don't care about money much.
Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal
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> A 400w watt panel is 250$. Wait, panels are that cheap? Could you point me to a good place to buy them?
You generally have to buy them by the pallet-load, FOB ("free on board") at the source, which means you arrange shipping. Home Depot marks up 4x for local purchase. But used panels, at 80% rated output, are even cheaper, as low as $150. A few of those will fail, so you keep spares. They are often repairable in a few minutes if you are not afraid of a soldering iron, e.g. replace a diode or MOSFET. Any roofer will put…
Be sure to specify if you need liftgate service at the destination or not, because that will affect cost, otherwise by default a pallet by LTL freight will need a loading dock to receive.