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iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Post by smackfu »

nirvana wrote: post #80
smackfu wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Galaxy S2 sold 10 million phones worldwide even before it went on sale in the US. It's pretty much the bestselling Android phone. So this is a pretty silly comment, although fairly typical for iPhone users who aren't up to date on Android phones.

I found one article about the sales of the S2 from an "android news" site, that indicated it was selling 2-3 million a month. I'm sure it is the best selling android phone, and I say anything that sells more than a million units in a year is a "hit", but that's not a lot of sales compared to the iPhone. It certainly hasn't broken out into the mainstream like the iPhone has.

Look at the comment I was responding to, that people must not be loving the Galaxy S2 because "there would be a hell of a lot more sales of it than there are..."

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Post by smackfu »

nirvana wrote: post #76
smackfu wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I can tell, they made double click launch the multitasker, and the mystery swipe left and right in it (without even any indicators this is possible), just to hide that stuff from novice users.

I'm not sure if you meant "hide" it so that they'd never use it or hide it so they wouldn't see it before they were ready. I think the intention on Apple's part was the latter. It isn't that hard to accidentally double-click the home button and get to the other running Apps. This is a natural effect that good UI depends on. Rather than filling the screen with a control for every possible option, you get this "hidden"…

You have a lot more faith than I in people actually realizing what they did by mistake, and learning to repeat it.

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#83

Post by reidmain »

moultano wrote: post #34
reidmain wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're ignoring the significant downsides to the Android ecosystem. For example, if you purchase apps, you would be better off with an iPhone. Why? Because purchasing those apps on an Android phone means that the associated cost of switching to any other platform increases by the value of those apps. That cannot be justified as a 'good thing'.

I'm not understanding what you are saying. Any Android app you purchase can be installed on all of your Android devices. Would you mind rephrasing so I understand?

Well any iOS app you purchase can be installed on all of your iOS devices.

UNLESS, this is about how you can ONLY buy stuff from Apple's App Store and then I can understand the point being made. But jailbroken iPhone users are such a small percentage (as are rooted Android phone users) so I'm looking at this from the average consumers' perspective.

If they buy 100 apps on their Android device they are then leery about switching to iOS because they lose all those apps and vice-versa.

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Post by masklinn »

rdtsc wrote: post #59
dr_ wrote: post #14

Even before this announcement, it is beyond me how anyone can argue that this is not the best smartphone on the market. It has an incredibly fast processor, fantastic camera, one of the most popular music hubs (iTunes), the largest app store and probably the most advanced AI technology in a phone. When the technorati (and, to be honest, most bloggers have been supportive of the product) diss this phone, are they actu…

> are they actually suggesting someone would be better off with a Android, Blackberry or Windows 7 phone? It seems your comment is based on a flawed assumption that all these consumer devices should be evaluated in a vacuum where price, app markets, & previous corporate adoption doesn't matter. iPhones where historically really expensive devices. And price is one of the features of the device just like camera resolut…

> iPhones where historically really expensive devices.

No. Smartphones are historically really expensive devices. Year before the iPhone was released, I had a Eseries Nokia phone, it was something like 500€ out of carriers (and few carriers had it, Eseries are enterprise/corporate phones), unsubsidized Nseries phones ("comsumer" smartphones, usually with a 10key and more multimedia features instead of the full qwerty keyboard of Eseries) were the same price.

When the original iPhone was released, it was not expensive, it was unsubsidized.

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Post by rudiger »

dr_ wrote: post #14

Even before this announcement, it is beyond me how anyone can argue that this is not the best smartphone on the market. It has an incredibly fast processor, fantastic camera, one of the most popular music hubs (iTunes), the largest app store and probably the most advanced AI technology in a phone. When the technorati (and, to be honest, most bloggers have been supportive of the product) diss this phone, are they actu…

I want a bigger screen :(

It's hard to read books on the iPhone, but it's easy on 3.7-4.0" phones, even when they have less pixels.

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Post by masklinn »

eren-tantekin wrote: post #60
thatjoshguy wrote: post #43

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But 'regular' people are loving the Galaxy S 2, I guess because of it's large and vibrant screen, and it's thinner (to hold) compared to the iPhone 4[1]. I really like the Galaxy S 2 and I wish so hard that Android was actually polished to the degree that iOS is. My iPhone bores and I love the screen on the Galaxy S, yet I know I will miss out on OS updates and being able to smoothly rotate the screen. The day androi…

It is about a milimeter thinner than iPhone.

0.6mm at its thinnest point, and 0.5mm thicker at its thickest point (the latter being a sticking point, UK's Advertising Standards Authority ruled against Samsung's claim of thinnest smartphone on the market on these grounds)

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Post by reidmain »

hahaiamatwork wrote: post #37
reidmain wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're ignoring the significant downsides to the Android ecosystem. For example, if you purchase apps, you would be better off with an iPhone. Why? Because purchasing those apps on an Android phone means that the associated cost of switching to any other platform increases by the value of those apps. That cannot be justified as a 'good thing'.

You are incorrect. Android applications can be compiled against purely Android libraries, or Google's additional libraries. The ones which do not depend on Google's services specifically can be used anywhere you like. For example: There's a company running Android apps on iOS now.

How am I incorrect? I'm referring to the idea of an average consumer buying 100 apps for their Android device and then being leery about switching to iOS because they would lose those apps and vice-versa.

Also, what company are you referring to?

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Post by reidmain »

qweq wrote: post #36
reidmain wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're ignoring the significant downsides to the Android ecosystem. For example, if you purchase apps, you would be better off with an iPhone. Why? Because purchasing those apps on an Android phone means that the associated cost of switching to any other platform increases by the value of those apps. That cannot be justified as a 'good thing'.

moron

Care to clarify why?

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Post by thatjoshguy »

jstedfast wrote: post #61
thatjoshguy wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But 'regular' people are loving the Galaxy S 2, I guess because of it's large and vibrant screen, and it's thinner (to hold) compared to the iPhone 4[1]. I really like the Galaxy S 2 and I wish so hard that Android was actually polished to the degree that iOS is. My iPhone bores and I love the screen on the Galaxy S, yet I know I will miss out on OS updates and being able to smoothly rotate the screen. The day androi…

> But 'regular' people are loving the Galaxy S 2 Are you sure of that? I can't imagine it's true, or there would be a hell of a lot more sales of it than there are...

In my experience, yes. I a lot of people I work with (shifty at KFC) and live in my dorm get more excited about the Galaxy as apposed to the iPhone. Those who have the GS2 love and live by it.

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

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Post by llii »

runjake wrote: post #65
king_magic wrote: post #45

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My mom could care less about better Linux connectivity. My girlfriend doesn't care about copying files on/off the phone. My aunt doesn't care about running emulators. You know what they do care about? A nice camera. An easier way of interacting with the phone (Siri).

I think what he is trying to say is that some people would prefer what he's talking about, and that the iPhone isn't one size fits all .

Why does this post got downvoted? Does it violate any rules on hacker news? Or just because here is a big Apple circle-jerk going on?

(written on my macbook)

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