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Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Post by recuter »

makomk wrote: post #73
DasIch wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gas is used primarily by heating or industrial processes that require it. It can't be meaningfully substituted with anything else in the short term. To some extent you can't even substitute with gas from other sources because of lack of (connections to) LNG terminals.

The lack of both LNG terminals and adequate connections to ones in other countries is a big part of what people mean when they say Germany went all in on Russian gas. They physically cannot import enough gas from other sources, as I understand it, and this was an intentional and knowing decision despite warnings from other counties.

I am not a Trump fan, but I do enjoy me some, how you guys say, schadenfreude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpwkdmwui3k

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Post by lordnacho »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #62
Etherlord87 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Currently it's probably the same stuff as the original McDonalds. Eventually the quality will deteriorate due to lack of supervision - unless Russians will do an equal job in supervising, which I doubt.

>Eventually the quality will deteriorate What quality? Even in Austria, at some really busy McD's I've been to like the train station or airport, their finished burgers looked nothing like the ones in the menu. Often they had components like the cheese, lettuce and sauces missing and I got just a dry paddy between two barren pieces of bread as a burger lol. It was uneatable so I had to throw it away and buy a sandwic…

> looked nothing like the ones in the pictures

This is surely too high a standard!

Did Coke ever give you the satisfaction of the people in the Christmas adverts?

Did you get girls after you bought Lynx?

Did you score more goals with those Predators?

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Post by throwaway4aday »

archerx wrote: post #51
recuter wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, they got top minds on this. Top. Minds. Nuclear canceled by the Green Party and pre-March went all in on Russian oil and gas.

Sometimes I wonder if the Greens are actually funded by petrol companies because everything they do seems to benefit them in the end. In Switzerland the Greens are trying to be as dumb as the German ones.

You're not wrong but I don't think they're the only backers. The anti-nuke movement is a rat's nest of perverse influences.

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Post by baq »

nix23 wrote: post #74
archerx wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes I wonder if the Greens are actually funded by petrol companies because everything they do seems to benefit them in the end. In Switzerland the Greens are trying to be as dumb as the German ones.

But in Switzerland the population voted against nuclear energy, and with that we "the people" are as stupid as the green party, right?

somebody convinced the Swiss that benefits are not worth the risk and/or costs; it's quite clear now that some of the risk of being reliant on gas was... understated. the greens, for all my love of the environment for the sake of my grandkids, are blind to geopolitics, and I used to think this is just naivety; I'm starting to doubt that considering the extent of FSB's and GRU's influence.

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Post by martimarkov »

MrRiddle wrote: post #44
actinium226 wrote: post #38

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I'm just wondering, what specific escalation policies are you talking about?

Pushing NATO expansion in Ukraine and arming them with hi-tech weaponry.

I think you forget that Ukraine has the right of agency and has the right to choose to join a defensive union. I'm also finding it hard to get any concrete examples of offensive actions by NATO. So far every single one seems to be okay with Russia (given they didn't veto it in the UN security council).

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Post by recuter »

nix23 wrote: post #74
archerx wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes I wonder if the Greens are actually funded by petrol companies because everything they do seems to benefit them in the end. In Switzerland the Greens are trying to be as dumb as the German ones.

But in Switzerland the population voted against nuclear energy, and with that we "the people" are as stupid as the green party, right?

Yes.

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Post by archerx »

nix23 wrote: post #74
archerx wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes I wonder if the Greens are actually funded by petrol companies because everything they do seems to benefit them in the end. In Switzerland the Greens are trying to be as dumb as the German ones.

But in Switzerland the population voted against nuclear energy, and with that we "the people" are as stupid as the green party, right?

>'and with that we "the people" are as stupid as the green party, right?'

Yes.

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Post by ivan_gammel »

Etherlord87 wrote: post #47
throwaway4good wrote: post #18

I hope I one day get to visit a Russian nationalized McDonalds; just to fully grasp what deglobalization means ...

Currently it's probably the same stuff as the original McDonalds. Eventually the quality will deteriorate due to lack of supervision - unless Russians will do an equal job in supervising, which I doubt.

Russians are actually good at building restaurant business. It is one of the most competitive and difficult businesses there, so only the smartest survive. I’d rather go to Starbucks or McDonalds in Moscow than anywhere else in Europe (I’d prefer though a local chain). One of the fastfood chains even applied kaizen in their operations including kitchen.

The biggest problem will be the quality of supplies, as sanctions will damage the supply chain.

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

lordnacho wrote: post #82
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Eventually the quality will deteriorate What quality? Even in Austria, at some really busy McD's I've been to like the train station or airport, their finished burgers looked nothing like the ones in the menu. Often they had components like the cheese, lettuce and sauces missing and I got just a dry paddy between two barren pieces of bread as a burger lol. It was uneatable so I had to throw it away and buy a sandwic…

> looked nothing like the ones in the pictures This is surely too high a standard! Did Coke ever give you the satisfaction of the people in the Christmas adverts? Did you get girls after you bought Lynx? Did you score more goals with those Predators?

Sure, not looking exactly like the menu/ads is one thing, that's just marketing for you, but being served a patty in a bare bread bun, missing the cheese, lettuce and other parts of the product you ordered, is an outright scam in legal terms if we're being pedantic.

Sure, I get it, having underpaid and overworked people making your food is not a recipe for a great experience, but ultimately I paid in full, the company got their money and I didn't get the product I ordered, which is why I jusy stopped eating there, since I don't like being "THAT GUY" who ask for "the manager" in order to complain about overworked people on minimum wage that they got his order wrong and they need to redo the order while 10 more customers are waiting in line.

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