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Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

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Re: Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

#81

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I expressed an honestly held opinion. It is possible that opinion was the result of painful arrogance. Those are not contradictory.

Typically people understand being brutally honest as providing a painful to hear but helpful or contributory opinion. When your opinion comes from nothing but arrogance, ignorance, and a 4chan style need to draw attention to yourself by being deliberately insensitive, then your opinion isn't brutally honest. It's worthless, and you should keep it to yourself.

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Re: Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

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I don't agree with cpercival's comments, and I am quite saddened by the loss of Steve - more so than I would have expected. But it should be pointed out that the comments in no way reflect poorly on Tarsnap. It's a fantastic product. (other than the fact that the account balance alerts only consider storage used, not traffic charges. Grr.) edit: Downvoted already? For being a satisfied customer? Really?

other than the fact that the account balance alerts only consider storage used, not traffic charges. Grr. I wish I had a good solution to this -- but it's impossible to predict when someone is going to be using lots of bandwidth, and alerting based on the current total spending rate had a very high false positive rate since bandwidth usage usually spikes for a single day and then goes down to a small fraction of the…

Any discussion of the technology of someone who is running a small business is certainly on-topic.

So, what about using exponential smoothing or 95% peak estimation to get a better "current" spending rate? There is also the possibility to do some data mining on the actual usage (assuming you have collect that data and are willing to use it in aggregate to improve service) — i.e. customers who spend like you do and have a balance like yours usually run out of money after x days.

Another option I just thought of: try and estimate usage several different ways, and then check the variance — if its low, then issue an alert. I wouldn't be surprised if there is some research on how to do this, so it should be cook-up-able relatively easily if its a feature you want to add.

Re: Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

#83

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I was thinking it, but to my surprise I find myself disagreeing. I watch with growing dismay as crippled appliances and learned helplessness sweep the industry, but they are in fact what the market currently wants, and with long practice Jobs developed exceptional and laudable skill at not only identifying what the market wants but making a corporate behemoth deliver it in a very focused form.

That's an interesting agreement/disagreement. :) It seems what you're saying is that Jobs was very good at what he does, but what he does is inimical to hacker culture...

It's not just what he's saying, it's obvious objective fact. A device that I can't play around with and run my code on without paying my dues is merely a toy. I'm not universally opposed to toys -- my music player is an iPod nano, which is quite obviously a toy, but I'm not willing to support the toy-ification of general-purpose computing devices.

Re: Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

#84

I'll say what nobody else seems willing to say: I don't think he deserves it. De mortuis nihil nisi bonum and all that, but let's face it: Steve Jobs was a skilled salesman, nothing more. Let's keep the black bar for people who have actually made a contribution to computing. Edit: 2 minutes and already voted down to -4. Oh well, I knew this would be an unpopular opinion...

I dont agree with you but I agree to give you freedom to express your opinion that's why voted you up

Re: Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

#85

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You seem to think you are being brutally honest. You aren't, you're being painfully arrogant. There is a massive difference.

I expressed an honestly held opinion. It is possible that opinion was the result of painful arrogance. Those are not contradictory.

Don't pride yourself too much on being "honest". It is far easier to go around always telling the truth than to apply discretion.

Re: Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

#86

I'll say what nobody else seems willing to say: I don't think he deserves it. De mortuis nihil nisi bonum and all that, but let's face it: Steve Jobs was a skilled salesman, nothing more. Let's keep the black bar for people who have actually made a contribution to computing. Edit: 2 minutes and already voted down to -4. Oh well, I knew this would be an unpopular opinion...

I'm fond of criticizing tech messiahs, but I'll still admit that Jobs was more than a salesman. He knew how to get a team going in a particular direction to produce good industrial design.

It's a rare skill.

Re: Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

#87

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other than the fact that the account balance alerts only consider storage used, not traffic charges. Grr. I wish I had a good solution to this -- but it's impossible to predict when someone is going to be using lots of bandwidth, and alerting based on the current total spending rate had a very high false positive rate since bandwidth usage usually spikes for a single day and then goes down to a small fraction of the…

Any discussion of the technology of someone who is running a small business is certainly on-topic. So, what about using exponential smoothing or 95% peak estimation to get a better "current" spending rate? There is also the possibility to do some data mining on the actual usage (assuming you have collect that data and are willing to use it in aggregate to improve service) — i.e. customers who spend like you do and ha…

Exponential smoothing and peak estimation won't help with the fundamental problem, which is that warning based on storage costs alone produces the correct result -- in the sense that funds run out after exactly 7 days -- 90% of the time. Any non-trivial addition of bandwidth costs into the equation is going to hurt far more often than it helps.

Re: Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

#88
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He introduced millions of hackers to their first computer. I'd call that a contribution, indirect as it is.

I attribute that more to Steve Wozniak than to Steve Jobs.

Most nerds do. They fail to realize that very few would have known of Wozniak's work--would not have used it in homes and schools and businesses, would not have been able to integrate the computers that resulted from Wozniak's work in their everyday lives.

Computers for everyone? Yeah, it's the result of marketing, in a lot of ways. But it's also the result of an intuitive understanding of users--of users, not borderline-Asperger's hacker types--and the business discipline and leadership to say "we're going here, I know it's not easy, make it happen." Vision is valuable. Technical contributions are so much less valuable without the vision to apply them to do something great.

Re: Request PG: Could we please have the black bar out for Steve Jobs?

#89

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Any discussion of the technology of someone who is running a small business is certainly on-topic. So, what about using exponential smoothing or 95% peak estimation to get a better "current" spending rate? There is also the possibility to do some data mining on the actual usage (assuming you have collect that data and are willing to use it in aggregate to improve service) — i.e. customers who spend like you do and ha…

Exponential smoothing and peak estimation won't help with the fundamental problem, which is that warning based on storage costs alone produces the correct result -- in the sense that funds run out after exactly 7 days -- 90% of the time. Any non-trivial addition of bandwidth costs into the equation is going to hurt far more often than it helps.

Well, it doesn't produce the correct result for us, where bandwidth costs are more than 7 times storage costs, so we get our warning far too late.
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