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Snap is not a standard, and never will be (RedHat will always ship flatpak for example). So Snap is no universal solution. At the same time snap packages have serious downsides for end users.
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I don’t think I’ll ever use ubuntu again. The continued forcing of snap is killing it for me.
I installed Ubuntu a few weeks ago at work because most people use it and there is some existing infrastructure around it (mostly for the target platforms, but could also be for dev machines). I have to say that coming from Arch, it's a very Windowsy experience: lots of software has to be installed by searching for "install XYZ on Ubuntu", and following some instructions that involve scary-looking command lines that…
>scary-looking command lines that mess with cryptographic keys
>for a real Windows experience, install from a deb and hope you remember where you got it from when it needs an update
Yeah I guess you didn't use Windows recently cause that never happens there
I get the hate against snaps. I tried really hard to give them a chance, but in my experience it’s a generally poor user experience. What I don’t get is why people feel like they need to leave Ubuntu because of it. Flatpak et al. work just as well on Ubuntu as anything else. Simply not using snaps on Ubuntu seems like a simpler solution than abandoning the distro altogether (assuming you don’t distro hop for fun).
Because how would you otherwise end up with 999 different Linux distros? I bet someone already working on the Ubuntu-sans-snap distro (if not already exist)
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Snap is not a standard, and never will be (RedHat will always ship flatpak for example). So Snap is no universal solution. At the same time snap packages have serious downsides for end users.
I think this comment demonstrates the parent’s point.
Then 99% went with Flatpak, except one, Ubuntu with their own proprietary solution called snap.
It's not the same thing. We have a decent (yeah not perfect, I'll spare commenters the effort of posting that same old tired flatpak rebuttal) cross distro packaging solution, but Canonical always wants to play different and not collaborate with the other standards. So here we are.
I've been hearing good things about modern Fedora as an alternative "boring" operating system. Maybe now is the time to make the switch.
Question regarding Fedora : I tried it in a docker environment. During some googling to troubleshoot issues, several results were found on the Red Hat commercial support website (so, not accessible). I'm afraid that a good part of advanced/niche documentations and knowledge base for troubleshooting is behind Red Hat commercial support. Is that the case in practice?
I've been hearing good things about modern Fedora as an alternative "boring" operating system. Maybe now is the time to make the switch.
Fedora is really great, but it is a bit bleeding edge in that there are lots of updates all the time. I have found Arch with an LTS kernel (I use older hardware) to be about similar in terms of stability.
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Fedora is really great, but it is a bit bleeding edge in that there are lots of updates all the time. I have found Arch with an LTS kernel (I use older hardware) to be about similar in terms of stability.
If you want stable Ubuntu, take a loot at RHEL. You can get it for free with developer license and it's as stable as it gets.
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Fedora is really great, but it is a bit bleeding edge in that there are lots of updates all the time. I have found Arch with an LTS kernel (I use older hardware) to be about similar in terms of stability.
If you want a more "LTS" like Fedora you can stay one release behind. The previous release is still supported with security updates.
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Well, no. The parent point was that Snap is a way out of this software packaging quagmire, but I am saying that Snap will never unify the linux distros.
For me the best way to run Firefox on Debian based system is to download the compiled tar and extract it somewhere in my home dir. This way I get update through Firefox itself (like on Windows/MacOS).
If you are downloading the tarball from Mozilla, then you are affected by this telemetry: https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/17/each-firefox-download-has-...