Maybe it's just me, but it's just cool to see the CPU market competitive again for the first time since the late 90s.
I wonder why Intel never had a really good go at GPU's? It seems strange, given the demand.
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It was the most affordable DVD player. I think Sony owned patents on some DVD player tech? Same with PS4/5 and Blu Ray if I'm remembering correctly
This was also kind of the case with the PS3. Its sales weren't fantastic at release, partially because of its... $600 (?) price tag. But even at that price, at its release, it was one of the cheapest ways to get a Blu-ray player, and many people bought it for that.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was the most affordable DVD player. I think Sony owned patents on some DVD player tech? Same with PS4/5 and Blu Ray if I'm remembering correctly
This was also kind of the case with the PS3. Its sales weren't fantastic at release, partially because of its... $600 (?) price tag. But even at that price, at its release, it was one of the cheapest ways to get a Blu-ray player, and many people bought it for that.
Sony pushed updates to the firmware. Most commodity Blu ray players don't have an (easy) way to update.
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#84This leads me to wonder about the microprocessor shortage. So many computing devices such as Nvidia Jetson and Raspberry Pi are simply not available anywhere. I wonder what's he point of bringing out new products when existing products can't be purchased? Won't the new products also simply not be available?
What? They are sold out, not "can't be purchased".
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#85The contention on that memory means that only segregated non-cooporative as in not "joint parallel on the same memory atomic" will scale on this hardware better than on a 4-core vanilla Xeon from 2018 per watt.
So you might aswell buy 20 Jetson Nanos and connect them over the network.
Let that sink in... NOTHING is improving at all... there is ZERO point to any hardware that CAN be released for eternity at this point.
Time to learn JavaSE and roll up those sleves... electricity prices are never coming down (in real terms) no matter how high the interest rate.
As for GPUs, I'm calling it now: nothing will dethrone the 1030 in Gflops/W in general and below 30W in particular; DDR4 or DDR5, doesn't matter.
Memory is the latency bottleneck since DDR3.
Please respect the comment on downvote principle. Otherwise you don't really exist; in a quantum physical way anyway.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder why Intel never had a really good go at GPU's? It seems strange, given the demand.
Intel produced good, as in "cheap and always working", integrated GPUs. For great many tasks, they are adequate. I'm not a gamer, and if I needed to run some ML stuff, my laptop's potential discrete GPU won't be much help anyway.
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#88This leads me to wonder about the microprocessor shortage. So many computing devices such as Nvidia Jetson and Raspberry Pi are simply not available anywhere. I wonder what's he point of bringing out new products when existing products can't be purchased? Won't the new products also simply not be available?
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#89What are people's experience of developing with NVIDIA? I know what Linus thinks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
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#90This leads me to wonder about the microprocessor shortage. So many computing devices such as Nvidia Jetson and Raspberry Pi are simply not available anywhere. I wonder what's he point of bringing out new products when existing products can't be purchased? Won't the new products also simply not be available?
The products don't get produced in order. The high value products get priority and continuously bump out low value chips like those on the RPI. Not sure what the cost of this Grace chip is but it looks to be targeting high value users so it gets priority. Notice how there is no shortage of chips for iPhones, because Apple just buys the capacity at whatever cost it takes.