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U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy

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And when Blu-rays started wasting your bandwidth to show you ads you can't skip. Such progress.

Wait, Blu-ray disks can fetch ads from the internet?! Or are we talking about the disk IO bandwidth?

Yes, some Blu-rays when given an internet connection will fetch new trailers.

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#84

I think I'm more anti-piracy than the average person and despite bitwize being downvoted to oblivion, they are right. You aren't entitled to anything anyone creates. However, piracy is also 100% a service problem that has been exacerbated by everyone creating their own streaming services and I'm actually really curious how Amazon, Netflix, and Disney get away with "exclusive content." The US vs Paramount Pictures[1]…

> You aren't entitled to anything anyone creates.

I don't think that's always true even now, but it certainly shouldn't be. When something becomes of a part of our culture, and our history, it belongs to all of us. No one is entitled to anything someone else creates until it is shared. Once it is, ownership is also somewhat shared.

If someone wants to write a song and have total control over it they just need to keep it to themselves because once I hear it, I naturally have a right to hum that tune to myself for the rest of the day, or to sing it at the top of my lungs. If someone wants total control over a story they write they should keep it to themselves because once I hear or read it, it's my natural right to be allowed to remember it, think about it, talk about it with others, and retell it in my own words. Before copyright this was the norm. Stories and songs were written and sung, others heard them, repeated what they remembered, added in their own changes and continued to share. If someone designed an illustration, or a bridge, or a garment, once others saw it, they could study it and incorporate those designs into their own works freely. Improving and modifying those designs however they liked.

Telling people that they are forbidden from saying, writing, or re-telling certain things to anyone is a massive imposition on our freedoms. We created copyright knowing it would be a special exception to the norm. It gave special rights and privileges to content creators which would allow them to circumvent our rights and limit what we can say or write or share for a limited time, and in exchange for the brief imposition on our freedoms to reward and encourage creators, copyrighted works were supposed to enter the public domain and after that everyone could freely access and use them.

It's wasn't even a terrible idea, but it's been perverted and corrupted into something that does more harm than good to creativity and progress. Now copyright lasts forever, and if somehow after centuries a copyright does manage to lapse, DRM can still keep those works from ever reaching the public. The copyright on most of what we think of as media doesn't even protect creators at this point, just the corporations who purchased the copyrights from the creative minds responsible for the work. Basically, the contract between creators and the public good has been completely broken. Th media industry paid to have and keep the power of law on their side, but in terms of "entitlement" and morality, they lost the high ground ages ago.

Re: U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy

#85
post #82

I've stopped watching shows and movies altogether. I simply don't want to deal with this mess. I just find something else to do. I have couple channels on YouTube I watch without recommendations and a couple of twitch streamers. Recently, I've started reading.

Yep, same here. I loved watching movies for years. What helped me get off it was to always have always have a fun task planned for a side project whenever I was going to have a significant amount of free time. And, I listen to audiobooks, which satisfies my desire for fiction.

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What sucks is how the US will pressure the rest of the world to also implement this garbage. https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/downloading-and-uploading_what-... I am going to cancel my Netflix and start pirating because am not going to pay more than Germans for netflix and get an even smaller catalog than they get. Germany already pays more than the US for a much smaller catalog. We just get take to the cleaner just beca…

The EU changed their copyright directive a few years ago to mandate "best practices" as a condition for online safe harbor; I find that provision to be equivalent to the SMART Act.

As for paying more for less in Germany... the problem is that nobody in the TV industry wants to go to sim-ship[0]. Most countries want to have a local-market/local-language TV broadcast and production industry, which is only viable if you let people portion off rights to their work on a country-by-country basis. The subsidy laws you mentioned are part and parcel of the same thing.

[0] A game development term that is short for "simultaneous ship"; in which you ship all languages in every territory all on the same day.

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I'm a bit confused as to how this even solves anything to do with piracy even if you take the RIAA's side. Youtube et al already have incredibly aggressive copyright filters. I can't actually think of a major media platform that is based in the US sphere of influence that lacks those filters. At best this sounds like reinventing what already exists, but with more bureaucracy. I'm also confused as to how anybody expec…

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Re: U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy

#88

I think I'm more anti-piracy than the average person and despite bitwize being downvoted to oblivion, they are right. You aren't entitled to anything anyone creates. However, piracy is also 100% a service problem that has been exacerbated by everyone creating their own streaming services and I'm actually really curious how Amazon, Netflix, and Disney get away with "exclusive content." The US vs Paramount Pictures[1]…

> You aren't entitled to anything anyone creates. I don't think that's always true even now, but it certainly shouldn't be. When something becomes of a part of our culture, and our history, it belongs to all of us. No one is entitled to anything someone else creates until it is shared. Once it is, ownership is also somewhat shared. If someone wants to write a song and have total control over it they just need to keep…

> If someone wants to write a song and have total control over it they just need to keep it to themselves because once I hear it, I naturally have a right to hum that tune to myself for the rest of the day, or to sing it at the top of my lungs. If someone wants total control over a story they write they should keep it to themselves because once I hear or read it, it's my natural right to be allowed to remember it, think about it, talk about it with others, and retell it in my own words.

This seems like an intentionally obtuse interpretation of what I'm saying. No one is saying you can't hum a song but you certainly aren't entitled to a lossless download of that song.

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm totally on board with copying is not theft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4 Except that it is something. I go to my tax accountant, have them calculate my taxes, then, when they send me the filled out paperwork I make a copy, send back the originals, and say "No thanks. Didn't really need this". What would we call that? Theft of time? Theft of labor? Breach of contract? (I didn't sign a contract). Brea…

The analogy fails because the tax accountant has finite time to spend completing tax returns and your action directly took some of that time. Whereas with IP, there are not a limited amount of bits to copy and you making that copy did not restrict the availability of those bits to someone else.

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Re: U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy

#90

I think I'm more anti-piracy than the average person and despite bitwize being downvoted to oblivion, they are right. You aren't entitled to anything anyone creates. However, piracy is also 100% a service problem that has been exacerbated by everyone creating their own streaming services and I'm actually really curious how Amazon, Netflix, and Disney get away with "exclusive content." The US vs Paramount Pictures[1]…

> You aren't entitled to anything anyone creates. I don't think that's always true even now, but it certainly shouldn't be. When something becomes of a part of our culture, and our history, it belongs to all of us. No one is entitled to anything someone else creates until it is shared. Once it is, ownership is also somewhat shared. If someone wants to write a song and have total control over it they just need to keep…

There are so many local and indie artists who are willing to give you their work for free and would be thrilled to see you copying it to your friends. Those are the people who care about the free flow of information the most. They're also usually the ones who respect the intentions of creators the most. Because if you won't agree to pay money for it and be forbidden from copying, then the smart thing to do isn't to pull out bittorrent. The smart thing to do instead, is pull out your guitar and start recording something better. That's what freedom is. Maybe if everyone wasn't so focused on pirating Goliath, more people would be supporting David.
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