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Putin’s Worsening Problems

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Re: Putin’s Worsening Problems

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indiscriminate bombardment of cities does very little to achieve any military objectives, especially when a substantial part of the country 'under siege' is actually entirely untouched by enemy troops. In purely military terms, doing that would be almost the same as just having all that artillery sit around and do nothing while the Ukrainians execute major counter-offenses.

>Indiscriminate bombardment of cities does very little to achieve any military objectives, especially when a substantial part of the country 'under siege' is actually entirely untouched by enemy troops. So all the allied bombings in ww2 were pointless?

> all the allied bombings

Not all. Many of those had the explicit goal of at machine factories and industrial centers (sometimes the whole town) for airplanes, ball bearings, etc, (at least in 1943/1944) although there were carpet bombings and there were a fair share of generals in favor of the “indiscriminate” aspect

Re: Putin’s Worsening Problems

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> YES ALL THOSE BOMBINGS IN WW2 were effective. How exactly?

Some strategic ones at least appear to have ben effective: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_campaign_of_World_War_II Not do much for area bombing (cf https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_Wor... ). In both case we are talking of multiple years of bombing.

So not all of them were effective, and the second link specifically mentions bombings of Dresden and Hamburg as controversial.

And it’s very easy to be effective at bombing oil installations as they are not a part of the city.

Re: Putin’s Worsening Problems

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post #32

To reduce the level of rando mass murder by Putin from long range positions: Stand with Ukraine: paraphrasing HR: "Medium range air defense and shore to ship missiles ..." https://youtu.be/MDpTACez5cY?t=473

No fly zone seems like an great way of escalating the conflict, with a nuclear power no less.

It's just guessing if things will escalate. But it does seem plausible that providing anti-air weapons is less provocative than enforcing no fly zone with foreign jets.
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