During Nazi rule, there were many books written which the authors later found to be embarassing.
The common explanation was said to be: "I did not write that. They have forced me. And I did not mean it that way."
Kettle Logic
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#82It's fitting that Freud's the one to describe this (and unironically tout its benefit? I can't tell.) as there's plenty of his own work that can be suchly described.
This is not true at all. Freud was a rigorous thinker, and was painstaking with his thought, which he changed as he made more and more observations.
I definitely understand that we feel a huge need to stigmatize him, that there is an overt resistance, its just rather funny to me that despite that we as a culture take so much of his ideas and concepts and internalize them. We get lots of weird dismissive attitudes like this, while not really arguing the thought itself.
Kettle logic was something he identified as phenomena, initially in dreams, but as we all anecdotally know, its pervasive. Our minds do not run on a principal of noncontradiction, but a logic of its own. I think that's profound and helpful to understand.
As someone who has studied and written about Freud extensively in an academic context, would just love to know where you identified inconsistencies in his thought.
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#83The dream logic bit is interesting personally, as someone who wakes up if a dream doesn't make sense. As in, there usually comes a point in my dream near a crisis/climax when it dawn's one me that the situation doesn't makes sense and then I wake up. This happens about 2-3 times a week.
For example, 2 days ago I had a dream where I was had to go back to highschool for a year to get a highschool diploma because some technicality or lost paperwork college. Then I find out there was a Spanish requirement that I was scheduled for but was never informed of and that there was a midterm the next day I couldn't fail. Then I'm like okay can I get an exception from the college so I can keep my job? And if I loose this job, how bad is it really? I've already got 3 years at Google, so surely... Wait what? Wake up.
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#84Or, as my generation learned it from Bart Simpson, "I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything!"
Bart’s would be, “It didn’t happen, it was someone else, it was a good thing I did it”.
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#85Or, as my generation learned it from Bart Simpson, "I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything!"
"I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it anyway, and he can't prove he saw it." There, that's the interpretation that proves it works.