Making you pay for shit that should be free is basically Apple’s entire business model.
But we still do it. “Charge me harder, daddy. You know I like it when you make me pay.”
Apple turns monitor height adjustment into a $400 upsell
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Re: Apple turns monitor height adjustment into a $400 upsell
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Decent monitor arms easily cost $300-500.
That's untrue. Ergotron LX arms for example hold big monitors perfectly and last basically forever - currently priced https://www.amazon.com/Ergotron-Monitor-Monitors-Up-Polished...
I have several Ergotrons for a few years now, mostly the two-arm models with 27in monitor pairs. My only gripe is that cabling them neatly is difficult.
Re: Apple turns monitor height adjustment into a $400 upsell
#83Re: Apple turns monitor height adjustment into a $400 upsell
#84Apple can do this because nobody else makes a high quality monitor that doesn’t look terrible. In nice offices, each chair is a couple thousand each. Full designs easily $50k+. Theyre not going to mess up a such a thoughtfully designed aesthetic with some slab of black plastic and an Amazon Basics stand (which is what I use) to save $1-2k.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. I'm getting a bit tired of the metallic look, personally. I don't think Eizo monitors look terrible. They have nice displays too, and some useful colour management features. The higher end Benq's look nice to me. Apple will keep charging it because people keep paying it....
I own and quite like the calibrated series Benqs
Re: Apple turns monitor height adjustment into a $400 upsell
#85A premium screen with a 60hz refresh rate in 2022 is, frankly, ridiculous
Not for the intended audience. Pixel density > refresh rate outside of gaming.
Sure it's not for gaming, otherwise there'd be questions about response time and such.
However, 60hz vs 100hz does make a noticeable difference for scrolling or 3D work or slow-mo video.
Even 90hz would be good enough of an improvement.
Edit: Oh i didn't mean reducing the PPI in favor of the refresh rate. I meant keeping the >4K and the PPI but pushing the refresh rate above 60hz.
Re: Apple turns monitor height adjustment into a $400 upsell
#86I feel like these monitors will depreciate in value much faster than their M1 chips. It feels like only yesterday, flat screen TVs were a few thousand dollars. Now, you can get a decent one for a few hundred.
Maybe. The non-Retina Apple Cinema Display which I believe is over a decade old still sells for $200-300+ used. The Thunderbolt Display even more. The 5k iMac came out in about 2015 and still no other company sells an equivalent 5k monitor other than the LG/Apple monitor.
The only comparable monitor out there is the built monitor in the Surface Studio. I actually prefer it to the iMac since it has a bit more vertical space (4500x3000 vs 5120x2880). Unfortunately it's not available as a standalone display.
Re: Apple turns monitor height adjustment into a $400 upsell
#87Apple can do this because nobody else makes a high quality monitor that doesn’t look terrible. In nice offices, each chair is a couple thousand each. Full designs easily $50k+. Theyre not going to mess up a such a thoughtfully designed aesthetic with some slab of black plastic and an Amazon Basics stand (which is what I use) to save $1-2k.
Re: Apple turns monitor height adjustment into a $400 upsell
#88I have zero problem with this. They designed a nice stand, it's expensive, so what? If you don't want to pay for it, just buy a VESA arm instead. They also offer a VESA adapter instead of the stand, for the same price. That's great IMO, and a big improvement to previous Apple monitors where you had to buy the stand with the monitor and then spend an extra ~$50 for the VESA adapter. On the other hand, it would be even…
This was already a solved problem with the XDR. It can be swapped out for a VESA mount and stand, and the mechanism is very slick. I'm shocked they didn't just go with that since they already have the accessories.
Re: Apple turns monitor height adjustment into a $400 upsell
#89Maybe we can pull all the threads complaining about Apple's pricing into one thread. A complaint about the price of a TB4 cable: https://www.businessinsider.com/the-thunderbolt-4-pro-versio...
I still can't figure out who would buy this given that name brand, active, 2m Thunderbolt 4 cables go for under $60. And generic brand 2m cables that are tested and well reviewed for under $40.
This is a five-foot-long PCIe x4 cable - GPU extensions are four inches. It can feed two 4K displays at 60Hz. It can transfer data faster than an NVMe drive can store it. The fact that this is even physically possible is astounding.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am serious. Apple has been selling ridiculous VESA adapters for a decade now, and most other manufacturers just build them into the monitors. Literally the only reason I can think of for this is that they don't want unattractive screw holes in the monitors. Do you have a better explanation?
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When they offer the adapter as a free alternative to the stand?