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Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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I think GP's "porn list people" means "people who really like lists (as if lists are pornography to them)"; see meaning 3 and 4 in https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/porn#English . I would say the other way around though, i.e. "list porn people".

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Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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Is "View > Print layout" what you're looking for? It replaces page splits (header/footer whitspace and page margins) with a dashed line.

yeah I use it and it works quite well but then people use footnotes and they look weird there; disallow footnotes and make that dotted grey line go away and I'm sold

also: the view is a user-setting. When I author some text I still need to think about how does it look when there is a page split (e.g. tables, figures etc) in case some of my colleagues may end up reading it in the "print layout mode.

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I'm in the business of building an online word processor - https://www.zoho.com/writer It's interesting how the documents industry is moving from print oriented legacy softwares (Google Docs, Word) to block based, app-ish, smart canvases (Notion, Coda, etc). Also both Microsoft & Google have adopted completely different strategies to compete in this market. Microsoft launched Loop as an entirely new app while Google…

Have you ever tried to print a Notion document? It feels like they made the "Export to PDF" in a weekend. It's hugely underpowered and under-featured. It feels like Notion's demographic just dont need to share documents as documents. Notion would likely have put more effort into that feature if they did.

> It feels like they made the "Export to PDF" in a weekend

Ah well, I built it in my first week or so as part of a hiring trial process, back when the company was 16 people in a remodeled auto body shop. Before that, the “PDF Export” feature just opened the browser print dialog.

One fun thing about working at a startup is that you solve a problem for 90% of your users, but after a while of user growth and demographic shift, that remaining 10% ends up being bigger than the original 90% was in raw numbers.

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Have you ever tried to print a Notion document? It feels like they made the "Export to PDF" in a weekend. It's hugely underpowered and under-featured. It feels like Notion's demographic just dont need to share documents as documents. Notion would likely have put more effort into that feature if they did.

I am not a big fan of notion, but printing a document (even as a pdf) is an increasingly niche usecase in an increasingly digital-only world and I can totally understand if they don't put in much effort into it.

In remote life I started printing anything long and complicated I needed to read just to give my eyes a break from screens all day.

Is it becoming niche? Yeah, probably, but we might want to think of it as being niche in the way that accessibility features are niche.

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I am not a big fan of notion, but printing a document (even as a pdf) is an increasingly niche usecase in an increasingly digital-only world and I can totally understand if they don't put in much effort into it.

I wish. One of my clients wants it for everything (typically text, stats, and graphs), and typically views it as just an "add a button" sort of feature, when it winds up being a "reimplement the layout in a different language" sort of thing. (leaving apart the thing where basically they want a gigantic lovecrafian horror of an excel file translated to the web) PDFs have the ability to be a fixed, baked reference of a…

> PDFs have the ability to be a fixed, baked reference of a document

I completely agree. Having the ability to look at what a dynamic document looked like at a particular moment in time (and be able to archive it), is a very important feature. In a dynamic document like Notion, people will still want to know what the data/doc looked like when decisions are made. Page-based layouts make this much easier.

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I am not a big fan of notion, but printing a document (even as a pdf) is an increasingly niche usecase in an increasingly digital-only world and I can totally understand if they don't put in much effort into it.

In remote life I started printing anything long and complicated I needed to read just to give my eyes a break from screens all day. Is it becoming niche? Yeah, probably, but we might want to think of it as being niche in the way that accessibility features are niche.

That's one of the reason why I'm so happy with my Boox e-ink tablet.

Anytime I need to read big documents I just export them and put it on it. Easy for the eyes and easy to take note on the document.

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I'm in the business of building an online word processor - https://www.zoho.com/writer It's interesting how the documents industry is moving from print oriented legacy softwares (Google Docs, Word) to block based, app-ish, smart canvases (Notion, Coda, etc). Also both Microsoft & Google have adopted completely different strategies to compete in this market. Microsoft launched Loop as an entirely new app while Google…

> legal professionals I would love to meet these mythical legal professionals that use anything other than track changes in docx. :D

I agree. I have over 50 US patents, and the multitude of patent lawyers I have worked with all use docs with change tracking enabled.

EDIT: parents -> patents

Re: Google Docs New Feature: Pageless

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Finally. Every time I create a new doc, the first thing I do is make each page seamless, although it still has a line between each page. In some cases page breaks make sense, but definitely the majority web use case is a long running single page.
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