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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by NamecheapCEO »

dmitrygr wrote: post #69

How is this supposed to help? Ok, i get the virtue signaling angle, but seriously. What do you expect? That people want domains so much that they'll drop everything, abandon their families, kids, jobs, and go rise up against a well-defended president who'll jail or kill them for protesting? This does NOTHING to help Ukraine, hurts INNOCENT Russians, and makes you look good in the eyes of only the least attentive....…

If we were virtue signaling we wouldn't willingly be giving up a not non significant part of our business. This hurts us financially but it's the right thing to do, at least for us.

Your leader/country is already killing innocent civilians/ukranians. They are putting it all on the line with their lives. They didn't ask for this yet they are dying for it. Change needs to come and the only way it can is for the Russian population to put it on the line as well.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by tguvot »

xfitm3 wrote: post #68
tguvot wrote: post #40

Given that Russian vodka is blacklisted from stores in USA (and Finland!) and replaced with message "we stand with Ukraine", it's not really surprising. I read interview with somebody from Russia yesterday, russian tracks getting their tires punctured in EU and get stuck because credit cards don't work anymore. Ships refuse to offload goods in Russian ports and drop them of "wherever in Europe". Russian companies can…

Truly awful. If you listen to Russian news (propaganda) they're claiming Ukranians want Russia to come liberate them and save them from poor living conditions. It's almost as if they forgot that people have the internet.

Internet doesn't help. I saw screenshots of bunch of chats between relatives in Ukraine and Russia in first couple of days. People from Russia claim that Ukrainians are brainwashed, russia comes to liberate them and only neo-nazis are fighting back and shooting into cities.

There is also articles on official new sites (like RIA) that neo-nazis are executing Ukranian Military personal that doesn't want to fight.

Internet doesn't help. It's all about bubble...

As very unpleasant example, my father who lived most of his live in Kyiv but lives in Germany for past 15 years or so, is consuming only russian media. He is sure that Ukraine is ruled by neo-nazis from bunkers in Kyiv and whatever Russia is doing it's appropriate. This was his opinion after first day. Don't think that it changed

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#83

Post by raxi »

rmnc wrote: post #55

This is really wrong. I'm a Russian national, and I'm not supporting aggression towards Ukraine. In contrast, I've spent last two days in police after being detained due to the fact that I dared to express my condemnation in public protest. I am not my government, and apart from starting a one-man revolution with a pretty obvious result, I'm doing everything I can to raise awareness, condemn actions of Russian govern…

> your company has a lot of Ukrainian employees

That raises a question: how to find a domain registar without a lot of Ukrainian employees ?

According to the recent leak, Epik has them a lot as well.

Could we crowdsource such a list of registrars sorted by nationality of their employees to be prepared to the geo risks?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#84

Post by MysticKnight »

I also got this email. How will this affect me?

I dont have any Russian domains/tlds, nor am I in Russia and never have been. I'm in England, born here and have lived here my whole life?

The only domains I have are ".xyz" , ".cam", ".pw" tlds. My hosting is from Hetzner in Germany.

I have zero links to Russia.

The email says in bold "If you hold any top-level domains with us, we ask that you transfer them to another provider by March 6, 2022."

Which makes it seem to me like you are saying it will affect me somehow?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#85

Post by exizt88 »

tguvot wrote: post #40

Given that Russian vodka is blacklisted from stores in USA (and Finland!) and replaced with message "we stand with Ukraine", it's not really surprising. I read interview with somebody from Russia yesterday, russian tracks getting their tires punctured in EU and get stuck because credit cards don't work anymore. Ships refuse to offload goods in Russian ports and drop them of "wherever in Europe". Russian companies can…

I don't understand how "collateral damage" is relevant. Aren't people supposed to minimize collateral damage? Namecheap didn't HAVE to do this. The chose to do this in a very particular way, which hurt its customers, especially those opposing Putin's regime and currently fleeing the country.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#86

Post by rmnc »

ainar-g wrote: post #78
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

> We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. Putin has announced recently that cross-border payments in USD and EUR are to be blocked. Which means that most Russians affected by this won't be able to pay for a registrar outside of Russia. People here have mentioned transferring their domain names to NIC.RU, the state-owned registrar. Which means that Putin actually receives more money because of th…

> Putin has announced recently that cross-border payments in USD and EUR are to be blocked. Which means that most Russians affected by this won't be able to pay for a registrar outside of Russia.

THIS

I've paid upfront exactly because of this, I was expecting some kind of ban of cross-border bank transfers. The same reason I've paid for my VPN upfront. No one in Russia, especially those who are politically active, can't really go around without some kind of self-hosted infrastructure.

Now, should Namecheap lag even a little bit with a transfer, which I've HAD to pay for (thankfully, I was able to use other provider rather than nic.ru), I will be left without my private XMPP service, self-hosted e-mail and a lot of stuff which makes my communications at least relatively safe.

While making such moves, they just made my life more dangerous, at time when government already looks for someone on the inside to blame.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by dmitrygr »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #81
dmitrygr wrote: post #69

How is this supposed to help? Ok, i get the virtue signaling angle, but seriously. What do you expect? That people want domains so much that they'll drop everything, abandon their families, kids, jobs, and go rise up against a well-defended president who'll jail or kill them for protesting? This does NOTHING to help Ukraine, hurts INNOCENT Russians, and makes you look good in the eyes of only the least attentive....…

If we were virtue signaling we wouldn't willingly be giving up a not non significant part of our business. This hurts us financially but it's the right thing to do, at least for us. Your leader/country is already killing innocent civilians/ukranians. They are putting it all on the line with their lives. They didn't ask for this yet they are dying for it. Change needs to come and the only way it can is for the Russian…

> Your leader/country is already killing innocent civilians/ukranians.

MY leader? Nice assumption, buddy.

Oh, if only the world were as simple as you pretend (or, worse: think) it is. Sanctions have never ever worked, historically. Just ask cubans. And "we lose money on this" hardly makes you right, just makes you look sillier yet.

Where were you with cutting off service of countries starting pointless wars when America invaded Afghanistan and Iraq?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#88

Post by NicoJuicy »

exizt88 wrote: post #65
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

> People that are getting angry need to point that at the cause, their own government. Believe me, I'm very angry at my government. Unlike you, I've been protesting the regime for several years, putting my health and well-being at risk. I've donated thousands of dollars to anti-regime organizations. And I'm currently in the process of fleeing the country because of this. So I'm also very angry at you, for screwing me…

I don't think they ( namecheap) has a choice, considering a lot of their employees live/lived in Ukraine.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#89

Post by Bluesboy »

rmnc wrote: post #63
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

I've paid in full for four domains just four days ago -- some two hours before I was thrown into a police bus. I may understand why you did this, but this is a low move, nonetheless. Tax dollars or not, you're imposing extra costs on your users, most of which relied on your services for decades, and terminating any trust they ever had in your services.

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#90

Post by rmnc »

raxi wrote: post #83
rmnc wrote: post #55

This is really wrong. I'm a Russian national, and I'm not supporting aggression towards Ukraine. In contrast, I've spent last two days in police after being detained due to the fact that I dared to express my condemnation in public protest. I am not my government, and apart from starting a one-man revolution with a pretty obvious result, I'm doing everything I can to raise awareness, condemn actions of Russian govern…

> your company has a lot of Ukrainian employees That raises a question: how to find a domain registar without a lot of Ukrainian employees ? According to the recent leak, Epik has them a lot as well. Could we crowdsource such a list of registrars sorted by nationality of their employees to be prepared to the geo risks?

It is really hard to me to answer this. I was able to find a private Russian-based registar, which at least on the surface has no ties to the government or government-controlled entities and works with ICANN directly.

Other people are trying to move to Cloudflare -- but my banking cards are already not working, and I can't pay in USD for their services. Plus to that, even if somebody manages to move to Cloudflare or GoDaddy, there's no guarantee that they won't pull the plug as well.

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