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Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by horsawlarway » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:27 PM UTC

nohankyou wrote: post #75

horsawlarway wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again - who cares? If they went to the trouble of creating an account just to bump this issue... they probably care about it. Asking for update is just as often a way to subtly say "Can I pick this up?" or "Is there a way I can help move this ticket?" or "There was a pr, is this not getting merged because you won't accept this changeset?" You seem to be making a value judgement I just don't get - who fucking cares if…

Lazy people who just want stuff done for free, now.

And yet... that question got an appropriate and helpful response:

This is blocked because the primary author is not available to help due to geopolitical issues.

Even if it is just some lazy person who wants stuff done (and frankly - I think that attitude is fairly defeatist - you have no idea who that person is) why are you letting them occupy your headspace if that's what you think?

Basically - even if they are lazy, you making the assumption makes you an asshole. Worse - it makes you less effective, because you take a possible volunteer and snub them immediately. Between the two - I'm much more annoyed by your behavior than theirs.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by rovr138 » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:28 PM UTC

lijogdfljk wrote: post #72

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My boss is asking for progress updates and I'm just responding "Nothing. The guys are focussing on staying safe, warm, and well stocked right now." (with a small side of incredulity.) Incredible. I know several managers with employees in Ukraine and their companies are all being very thoughtful about handling the situation. When I hire remotely (including Ukraine, where we even had a remote office at one point) it…

What's expected though? Not that i'm defending mistreatment, but i work with a small team of all remote and we have a few Russian devs. If they go absent for a while due to all this issue, we're not going to fire them or be angry.. but we still need to try and keep the company afloat, no? Like forget bottom lines and corporate greed for a second. My company is small and if we don't hit an upcoming deadline, we're lay…

What kind of company is it?

• A startup can crash

• A fee for service company focusing on dev will probably crash

• An established company where development is just done for internal things. Can they pause feature requests and focus on maintenance for a bit? I'm not saying it may not come to having to hire people and talks need to start, but did they even think about the devs? What have they been doing in regards to their devs? Any help?

IMO, it's just the way it's being handled. They have their people fighting for their lives. Here's what looks like a manager or lead not being able to work with all the stress around it. And all that upper management sees is, fill in the chair.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by crisdux » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:29 PM UTC

Jenk wrote: post #21

My entire team of software engineers are Ukranian, residing in Ukraine (I'm not in Ukraine, nor am I Ukrainian). For the past few weeks our "water cooler talk" has been almost exclusively about the rising threat of invasion, if not directly about the ongoing conflict in the SE of Ukraine. A number of the team signed up for the volunteer defence force and have spent countless weekends training with the army. The morni…

This is horrifying to me but probably for a different reason. I'm tired of the general population being treated as pawns in this global game of empire. These people should not be risking their life. Our leaders screwed up and now citizens pay the price.

This war did not start 2 weeks ago. It is not the result of 1 man's actions. It's been going on for years but now it spilled into kinetic warfare. We are hardly any better than the kings and queens of yesterday, just look at all the actions being taken from western powers without any citizen input or democratic process.

Our opinions are being shaped on this conflict by our media, even on hacker news - people should be weary of all information they read on here regarding this conflict. People should try hard not to get swept up in tribal narratives and see the world for what it is.

In my opinion, the current system looks like its out of control and it's only going to lead to escalation. It almost certainly will lead to more nuclear proliferation. Confrontation with nuclear opponents need to be more cautious.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by zamadatix » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:29 PM UTC

CGamesPlay wrote: post #70

Is this staged? The pinging account was created seconds before the comment was posted and seconds later the developer replies. The developer who is of course defending against a real life invasion of his home country.

Posting account is suspicious as it was created at the time of the comment for the comment and the username has no other trace on the internet. Very suspect, impossible to prove of course though.

I'm getting 6 minutes between comment and reply though, not seconds, and unless the developer was actively fighting they'd still be getting email notifications to their phone but unlikely to be at sitting at home patching Vue. This part in itself doesn't scream suspect, just the catalyst.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by rovr138 » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:31 PM UTC

samcoppervimes wrote: post #36

Jenk wrote: post #21

My entire team of software engineers are Ukranian, residing in Ukraine (I'm not in Ukraine, nor am I Ukrainian). For the past few weeks our "water cooler talk" has been almost exclusively about the rising threat of invasion, if not directly about the ongoing conflict in the SE of Ukraine. A number of the team signed up for the volunteer defence force and have spent countless weekends training with the army. The morni…

You shouldn't read your employer's actions as uncaring. Ultimately it depends on where they are getting their money from. If that dries up, then there is no team anyway. I completely see your point, but I also see the difficulty your employer has. They can't just wait for the war to finish before getting their business going again.

That also depends on what business it is.

If it's fee for service and focused on development, I can see the issue of course. However, now all companies are structured this way.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by nohankyou » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:36 PM UTC

horsawlarway wrote: post #81

nohankyou wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lazy people who just want stuff done for free, now.

And yet... that question got an appropriate and helpful response: This is blocked because the primary author is not available to help due to geopolitical issues. Even if it is just some lazy person who wants stuff done (and frankly - I think that attitude is fairly defeatist - you have no idea who that person is) why are you letting them occupy your headspace if that's what you think? Basically - even if they are laz…

That's why I created this account to NOT contribute, just like this guy.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by bigbillheck » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:37 PM UTC

Jenk wrote: post #21

My entire team of software engineers are Ukranian, residing in Ukraine (I'm not in Ukraine, nor am I Ukrainian). For the past few weeks our "water cooler talk" has been almost exclusively about the rising threat of invasion, if not directly about the ongoing conflict in the SE of Ukraine. A number of the team signed up for the volunteer defence force and have spent countless weekends training with the army. The morni…

> The people I have, on average, spent 5x8hr days working with for the past few years. My comrades. My friends. Just so expendable in the eyes of my employer.

Makes you wonder how they'd treat you if you ended up in dire straits.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by bnt » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:38 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #76

bnt wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day after the invasion, I was flabbergasted by how much people don’t give a sh t. My Twitter feed was (and still is) people announcing their new ventures, doing their usual marketing, posting their vacay pics etc. Social media destroyed humanity. I deleted my Reddit after 14 years after I saw pics of burned bodies from Ukraine on a random SFW sub with folks making fun of people dying. Fu k this war and all who th…

> The day after the invasion, I was flabbergasted by how much people don’t give a sht. My Twitter feed was (and still is) people announcing their new ventures, doing their usual marketing, posting their vacay pics etc. Your Twitter feed reflects your active choices in who to follow and what to interact with. My Twitter feed has been largely dominated with the invasion since it occurred (though there are a couple othe…

Valid point, but the lack of empathy among the people I follow is concerning.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by d23 » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:40 PM UTC

zamadatix wrote: post #84

CGamesPlay wrote: post #70

Is this staged? The pinging account was created seconds before the comment was posted and seconds later the developer replies. The developer who is of course defending against a real life invasion of his home country.

Posting account is suspicious as it was created at the time of the comment for the comment and the username has no other trace on the internet. Very suspect, impossible to prove of course though. I'm getting 6 minutes between comment and reply though, not seconds, and unless the developer was actively fighting they'd still be getting email notifications to their phone but unlikely to be at sitting at home patching Vu…

> Posting account is suspicious as it was created at the time of the comment for the comment and the username has no other trace on the internet. Very suspect, impossible to prove of course though.

Seems pretty common to me. People frequently create accounts on sites just to ask a question or because they need something. This is probably the most common case / the long tail of most activity on social media sites.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by lucasmullens » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:42 PM UTC

CGamesPlay wrote: post #70

Is this staged? The pinging account was created seconds before the comment was posted and seconds later the developer replies. The developer who is of course defending against a real life invasion of his home country.

If you don't have a GitHub account, you might create one just to comment on an issue. The developer responded 6 minutes later which is reasonable if you got a notification.

This all seems perfectly reasonable to me.