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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #24

I feel like I see this exact article every year or two and then it always comes out that you can easily get around this with some type of easy loophole. Of course that might still get the majority of people switching to an online account but..... if you are practically giving away an OS for free is that really so bad? Not that I am saying I support this change personally of course - I would much rather have microsoft…

The "easy loophole" last time was to install windows without an internet connection and then repeatedly try/fail to create an account until the option appeared.

I heard that a loophole is to install Windows with a MSFT account, create a local account with admin access and then delete the MSFT account

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#83

If we assume Microsoft is doing this with good intentions and in good faith, why are they requiring a Microsoft account?

I believe, like apple, microsoft sees their future as a service provider instead of a software company.

I always wonder when I see stuff like this - isn't this a business opportunity?

but then the businesses that do it with linux start doing the same things (like canonical getting ubuntu to phone home and force updates, etc)

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "easy loophole" last time was to install windows without an internet connection and then repeatedly try/fail to create an account until the option appeared.

I'm guessing there will still be a way for domain-connected installs to complete without a Microsoft account.

The Microsoft release notes specifically mention that this only applies to personal use installs which means non-domain installs.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#86
post #29

I believe you can still choose the domain join option during install and still create a local account

Are there any simple domain server emulators out there which I could just run on a Raspberry Pi or whatever, like the fake KMS servers? That would be a decent workaround.

Best I found: https://www.univention.com/products/ucs/functions/

UCS core is free and runs windows compatible active directory. Not sure they have a pi4 version though.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#87
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You couldn't be more wrong. I made the leap to Ubuntu 20.04 late last year and haven't regretted it. This after a quarter decade of being a Windows guy. There's a couple rough edges, but overall? I'm home.

A quarter decade? So you were a Windows guy for a couple of years?

How to say you're young without saying you're young...

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#89
The referenced blog post is still not clarifying whether this requirement will only apply to current and future "Window Insider flights" (which require a M$ account anyway to join the program in the first place), or be released to public builds as well. Everyone is kinda assuming that this requirement is going to apply to actual Windows 11 Pro releases, but the way they're phrasing this does not seem to imply that at all.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#90
post #74

Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

> There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work. While Proton is great, it helps no one to suggest it's a solution to making all games work. There are absolutely enormous multiplayer titles still unavailable on Proton, if you can't play the games your friends play who cares if 99% of the rest of the Steam library works? Again, I think Proton is great…

They have promised they'll fix this for the Steam Deck, so there's a chance this will change in the next week.
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