"The CJEU had highlighted the risk that American intelligence services would access personal data transferred to the United States if the transfers were not properly regulated."
As an EU citizen: Thank you Mr. Snowden, sir! <3
Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
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Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#82Sadly I don't see how this decision can be translated into practice, since I strongly doubt the CNIL will be able (or willing) to send formal notice, and fine after a grace period, all French companies that make use of Google Analytics on their website.
Why is the onus on the CNIL to notify companies on the law (which they actually did by issuing this press release) and not on companies to keep up-to-date with the law (which they could to by reading the news)?
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#83A lot of this seems to be coming due to US regulations that compel US registered companies to hand over data from subsidiaries in Europe markets if asked by US intelligence and law enforcement agencies.
With these various data locality regulations, i wonder if a standard operating approach could be to split tech companies into 3 legal entities, a technology licensing company, a US registered operations company and a Europe registered operations company and hand the shares in all three companies to the current shareholders. This would insulate the Europe entity.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
People shouldn't have to be experts in this stuff either just to put up a website somewhere, or worse keep up with every new ruling.
Put up a static website and you're fine. Collect people's data (and that's what a user analytics system does) and then you're responsible for it, and you have to follow the rules.
Static websites can collect data too. Lots of stuff can go into web server logs.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#85I don't like Google but seriously this whole GDPR thing is getting out of hand. Anyone who's concerned about their data being collected can just block Google-or-like-related domains. Rest is just making life of web developers/admins/tech company owners harder. Especially with these European intentions I frankly believe this is more of a political war against US and US-based companies. (No, I'm not from US as well)
I don't like the meat industry, but seriously all these food safety laws are getting out of hand.
Anyone who's concerned about salmonella, hormone levels or animal welfare, can just not buy any products that could potentially contain animal products from countries with weak animal welfare or sanitary laws. The rest is just making life of farmers/shops/wholesalers harder.
Especially with these European intentions, I frankly believe that one single country's laws should be universal and no other country may implement or enforce laws that protect their consumers. The onus to protect themselves from harm must lie with the individuals and governments should not dare inconvenience anyone just to protect their citizens' interests.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#86Is the CNIL actually starting to do its job? Since the early 2000's they were doing literally nothing against the many crimes against users committed by big tech. In the past few years though they started to distribute fines when the law was obviously and willingly broken (eg. Google)... did they suddenly start to care for users? or do they care that they can fill the pockets of the government (who doesn't dare to tax those evil multinationals) while making it look like they care for users?
I mean CNIL does not exactly have a reputation of helping/protecting users... they more have a reputation of being a watchdog who sees no problem with government surveillance programs and does not react when you send them reports of illegal activities surrounding personal data. For their defense, their budgets and prerogatives have been cut so many times they probably couldn't investigate/fine anyone if they wanted to.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#87I don't like Google but seriously this whole GDPR thing is getting out of hand. Anyone who's concerned about their data being collected can just block Google-or-like-related domains. Rest is just making life of web developers/admins/tech company owners harder. Especially with these European intentions I frankly believe this is more of a political war against US and US-based companies. (No, I'm not from US as well)
When I was young adult, when visitor counter on a website was en vogue, I was building a system that would take note of where user came from, which pages they visited how long have stayed there, which page they exited through. What paths they took through a site. It didn't go that far. But when I saw people plastering Facebook like button everywhere I knew exactly what that meant. That one random corp now can know ev…
The industry standard is to show utter contempt for the user. It's expected that every site will show you tacky and distracting ads and will dump 90 third party cookies on you. It's beyond belief.
Imagine going into a travel agent to inquire about a flight. The moment you step through the door 50 people attach themselves to you. Some start recording your every action in a notebook, others flash torches in your eyes, two of them start showing you a video at the same time. And the rest follow you around holding up large ads. And they carry on following you around even after you leave the store!
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some courts beg to disagree with your position: https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/31/website_fine_google_f...
Oh, wow, didn’t realize 1 website had been fined $100. The legal water is boiling!
GDPR mechanisms are directed at pushing you towards compliance, not getting big payouts. So in many cases you can even avoid any fine if you cooperate on first notice.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#89Google Analytics is the best analytics tool out there.
By getting their companies off GA, European governments are weakening their industry.
This probably holds true for many SAAS products. Many of the best are from the USA. Forbidding European companies to use them is a desaster for the European internet industry.
Re: Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data protection authority
#90So I can take follow someone in public, take picture of them in public places from some distance, follow them into stores, see what they are spending and what they are using, etc. Store owners can have cameras, track the behaviour of customers, etc But if I use a service which anonymously tracks which pages they opened on a website they voluntarily visited and are exploring, then I'm in trouble?
What you're describing is very illegal in France, and you might have the police called on you or the person reacting aggressively if you're filming them like that. In fact there were a few incidents of that nature with Twitch streamers pointing their cameras at people and complaining online they were being mistreated by the locals.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Country_specific_...
This is a link I often check before traveling abroad regarding photography, and what is described is indeed illegal in France.