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Re: Ask HN: How to raise funds for rare disease research?

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Major pharma companies are all constantly competing, and very often are duplicating work because they are not sharing major experimental results. The way it feels is that there's already "too many people" working in certain areas (e.g. in cancer), while almost no attention is paid to these rare diseases. I think that more people studying rare diseases would result in a net gain of lives saved; I don't think it's as z…

On the other hand, competition has given us what, 6 covid vaccines of varying effectiveness, and in record time. What if only the least effective one was developed, and took 18 months? The 1962 FDA effectiveness mandates have had the side effect of increasing drug development costs enormously, and that shuts down development of treatments for rare disorders.

I think the idea would have been that Pfizer and Moderna could have pooled resources and made a single optimal vaccine faster, though I'll admit I'm not sure it could have happened any faster than it did from my perspective.

The Kefauver Harris Amendment you refer to was immensely important towards the development of safe and efficacious drugs -- I do not see the connection between that act and rare disease therapeutic development. In fact, drugs that only offer marginal improvements in quality of life for rare genetic disease patients are often fast-tracked by the FDA. Requiring that a drug _works_ shouldn't inhibit drug development. Otherwise, we end up with tragedies like what happened with the use of thalidomide, which prompted this amendment in the first place.

Re: Ask HN: How to raise funds for rare disease research?

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If your foundation is good try to get a lot of $10-$20/month donations. Then use that to fund one researcher. Someone who can focus without needing to worry about funding can do much. If you can't get one, maybe fund a grad student who does research in your area.

Though if you are trying to get clinical trials you may need more money, but just the act of having a lot of small donations can work wonders.

Of course some here will donate to your charity, and all money is useful, but consistant money is something you can budget around.

Re: Ask HN: How to raise funds for rare disease research?

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Sounds like you and your colleagues could start your own company, there may be enough people. I wonder if a nonprofit pharma company is viable.

I have been reading a book recently: The Story of Taxol: Nature and Politics in the Pursuit of an Anti-Cancer Drug , and one of the most fascinating parts was the way they discovered this molecule. Long story short, Taxol is a molecule they isolated from the bark of the Pacific Yew. The interesting part for me was learning about the Cancer Chemotherapy National Service Center [1]. They went around collecting samples…

This is one of the many reasons that causing plant and animal species to go extinct is bad for humans. We really have no idea how many potentially live-saving/health-enhancing/etc. medicines we are annihilating!

Re: Ask HN: How to raise funds for rare disease research?

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This is what I'd like to see. There should be some kind of system where in-progress research being done by pharma companies can be published. This would reduce the massively redundant amount of studies (e.g. CRISPR screens, xenograft studies, etc.) and help scientists more quickly converge on the mechanistic underpinnings of disease and how best to address them therapeutically. Obviously this can't work in the curren…

I've thought about things like the patent/ip problem, the structure of biomedical research, Pharma research, etc. This is an area where I don't actually see competition as a net benefit, however....it's the reality. The only thing I can come up with is a version of 'data rental'. Rather than Pharma companies locking this data away from others indefinitely, is there a way they could profit from it somehow, while still…

I agree that the system is just "reality" right now. I think the idea of a cryptographic data commons is an interesting idea, I'm just trying to imagine how it'd play out in my day-to-day research. If a system would tell me that my hypothesis is correct, but I couldn't look at (and share with colleagues) the raw data being computed, it'd be tough to believe that system. Maybe there's some type of zero-knowledge proof system that could facilitate this, though.

I only have a rudimentary understanding of blockchain technologies, but a system where pieces of a research puzzle are stored on chain and each user can claim ownership of those findings, a resultant drug's profits could be proportionally split by every entity which contributed to the research.

Another idea would be to completely socialize all biopharmaceutical research, but that type of system would require an extremely radical societal shift.

Re: Ask HN: How to raise funds for rare disease research?

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I work at a medium-sized pharmaceutical company as a computational biologist. Diseases like KS sometimes come up as potential repurposing targets (or novel drug targets), but we get a LOT of pushback from finance / leadership because we're unlikely to turn a profit working on ultra-rare indications. It is a deeply frustrating position to be in, wanting to work on these rare diseases and help this rarified patient pop…

I want to preface this by saying I am not providing an opinion rather I am genuinely curious. When Martin Shkreli bought the rights to Daraprim, some of his rhetoric about pharmaceutical industry sounded fair. He said that he is willing to send the drug for free to anyone who wrote to the company and he was essentially making the insurance companies pay the absurd price of the drug. He claimed no patient would ever f…

Zolgensma comes to mind - one time gene therapy treatment for a rare disease (tens of thousands), billed at $2M.

Not sure if there's as viable for OP since only a few hundred people have been diagnosed.

Re: Ask HN: How to raise funds for rare disease research?

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Are you involved with idefine? It seems like the most natural course. Why create a separate entity and voice instead of partnering / volunteering for one that is already establishing?

I imagine if you reach out and want to find ways to help / volunteer they would be excited to hear from you and to find a way to work together (most non-profits like this are...)

Re: Ask HN: How to raise funds for rare disease research?

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I can't remember where I read it, though I'm pretty sure that it was someone in your situation *: By far the easiest non-technical solution is to make it as easy as possible (logistically) for medical research companies to find a suitable cohort to test the intervention on. As you note with a patient pool of the order of hundreds, they are likely to be very scattered and so if you can get together a cohort for a medi…

I think the link you are looking for is this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4038113
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