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Apple in 2021

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Re: Apple in 2021

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What is Apple doing with the iPad division? The Mac spanked the iPad in 2021 and the recent earnings showed that.

There are apologists who will insist you can do real work on an iPad—if you get the iPad Pro, and the keyboard case. Which ends up being about as expensive and about the same size as a MacBook Air. And for any work that requires any sort of interface density, or complete access to the file system, or fast I/O, or…I’d way rather have a Mac.

I really wish I could get an Apple-flavor Surface. I don't want to buy two devices that are basically identical inside when I just want a laptop with the occasional ability to use it as a tablet to read an article or write some notes.

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#82
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> I can't imagine anything interesting happening to the watch that doesn't include a big increase to battery life. I don't want any other feature except a battery that can make it a full day. I have to ask: What are you doing with your Apple Watch that drains the battery so fast? I've never been able to drain my Watch battery anywhere near that fast, even with the always-on screen still enabled.

I work out every day using the Workouts app. I often bike or run outdoors so during a workout GPS, Bluetooth and the heart monitor are all active. At night I use the AutoSleep app to track sleep. I charge the watch just before sleep. I get the 10% low battery notification a few times a week.

Sounds like a proper workout watch like the Garmin or Suunto would be better suited for your use case?

My Garmin lasts just over a week (less if I record a lot of activities, but even recording an 8 hour hike it still has over 50% left at the end of the day).

Re: Apple in 2021

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> I can't imagine Cook being unable to do it. …and he has: AirPods, M1, Apple Watch, cleaning cloth… Also some failures that made it out the door, like HomePod… I’d like a little more focus on quality and consistency but that would mean stepping off the annual treadmill. Which they could do everyone a service by being the first to do so.

M1 was built by the PA Semi team, acquired in 2008 [0]. They build the A series chips in the iPhone, I would argue that M1 would not exist without them, furthermore, M1 was not a Cook endeavor. For the watch, it looks like the first key hire was in 2013, but there is a chance that it was not all Steve's work [1] 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.A._Semi 1. https://www.wired.com/2015/04/the-apple-watch/

It has not been the only semi acquisition, though I agree the most significant.

Re: Apple in 2021

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post #38

What is Apple doing with the iPad division? The Mac spanked the iPad in 2021 and the recent earnings showed that.

There are apologists who will insist you can do real work on an iPad—if you get the iPad Pro, and the keyboard case. Which ends up being about as expensive and about the same size as a MacBook Air. And for any work that requires any sort of interface density, or complete access to the file system, or fast I/O, or…I’d way rather have a Mac.

Agreed. Apple sort of tanked the value proposition of the iPad as a laptop replacement when they introduced the M1 Macbook Air

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I was a pretty staunch opponent of the iPad for a very long time. Tablets were clearly a consumption device, and I've always disliked Apple's penchant for proprietary connectors. However, things have shifted enough that on the artistic/creative front, the iPad is actually a really nice thing to have. When the iPad Air 4 (I think? The iPad ecosystem has terrible nomenclature) came out, it not only had a USB-C connecto…

> I was a pretty staunch opponent of the iPad for a very long time. Tablets were clearly a consumption device I have no doubt that the iPad is great at the things you list in your post, and I wish I had any skills that would justify buying an Apple Pencil. However, I don't understand why Apple and we on HN are so focused on making the iPad "more" than a consumption device. What's wrong with consumption? If I were to…

> For all the derision that iPads get for being couch potato devices, I wish they were better at being that

The base and mini iPads are great for that.

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I love the new Apple Silicon Macs, and the transition for me has been pretty easy. I can't imagine anything interesting happening to the watch that doesn't include a big increase to battery life. I don't want any other feature except a battery that can make it a full day. Apple software has seemingly regressed every year recently. Native apps like Music and Podcasts, the only two I would regularly use, have become so…

Switched to a Garmin Fenix because of the battery life. Total game changer charging once every couple of weeks.

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“ except a battery that can make it a full day.” I’m curious what use case you have where the battery doesn’t last a full day. I generally charge my 40mm S7 once a day but there is always at least a 25-30% charge remaining. I suppose if I did a multi mile bike ride while playing a podcast from the phone that might change. But otherwise it’s ok. I would love a two day charge because since days I miss the morning charg…

I essentially use it for health-things. I listen to podcasts/music off of it when I run or row so I don't have to carry a phone around. Today, for example, I was at 40%-ish at around noon after putting in on around 6am and exercising for roughly 90 minutes.

That is bizarre. The watch I bought in 2020, lasts me two full days. I go running between 30-60 minutes every day. Battery life has never been an issue for me, and it almost even feels like an old nokia in terms of battery life.

However, I turned off almost all notifications on my watch because they are mostly annoying, except text messages and protonmail. I turned off the “always on” watch face. I keep a very small subset of apps on the watch.

I also don’t have a cellular version of it, wifi only.

Re: Apple in 2021

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There are apologists who will insist you can do real work on an iPad—if you get the iPad Pro, and the keyboard case. Which ends up being about as expensive and about the same size as a MacBook Air. And for any work that requires any sort of interface density, or complete access to the file system, or fast I/O, or…I’d way rather have a Mac.

To be clear, you can absolutely do real work if your work is natively done with a stylus, e.g., illustrating or pen-and-paper math. These are of course uncommon.

As a Logic Pro user, I find the Logic Remote on both the iPad and the iPhone to be an absolute dream to use. Low latency, (mostly) intuitive, clutter-free and customizable interface, and lets you focus on creating music instead of fiddling with the mouse with a guitar in hand.

Point is, I’m using it as a periphery device and it absolutely kicks ass in that regard. I wish they would do more of that.

(and also, my use case is also an edge case)

Re: Apple in 2021

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just my humble opinion - i believe aapl has crossed the threshold into the territory which steve jobs famously described as the hallmark of the Scully era[0] - their endless pursuit for revenue has pushed sales and marketing people to the front of the line and product people operate in their shadows. of course in a company as big and wide ranging as aapl, there are so many competing priorities and things to focus on…

> he has been ruthless in pursuing what works to continue the endless revenue climb

This seems like an accurate assessment. Fortunately much of it has resulted in great products like the Apple Watch and M1 Macs, but service marketing leaking into the UI leaves a bad taste.

As a shareholder I'd be happy with the revenue and dividends, but as a customer I want the focus to be on building great new products and improving reliability and usability rather than trying to convince me to buy more service subscriptions.

We've already seen what happens to mobile games when they prioritize monetization over gameplay: they turn into slot machines. Sadly Apple Arcade is a sort of response to a problem that Apple grew in its own walled garden.

Re: Apple in 2021

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post #6

I love the new Apple Silicon Macs, and the transition for me has been pretty easy. I can't imagine anything interesting happening to the watch that doesn't include a big increase to battery life. I don't want any other feature except a battery that can make it a full day. Apple software has seemingly regressed every year recently. Native apps like Music and Podcasts, the only two I would regularly use, have become so…

This might be small, but the Apple watch needs to implement a body battery/stress/recovery score like Garmin, Fitbit and Whoop has.

Apple loves to show off its bloody oxygen sensor and its ECG capability. But they do not take key metrics that the watch measures all day and tell me what they mean. Heck the watch even measures heart rate variability but only logs it into the Health app.

But they need to be taking the resting HR, heart rate variability, HR, respiratory rate and develop a model for determining a stress and recovery score which ties into sleep etc. Showing these metrics on their own is great but they need to take the key metrics and show us what they mean.

Garmin, Whoop and Fitbit all do this and it's a key differentiator. I think the largest differentiator between it and its competitors.

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