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So we've decided as a society that any opinion that doesn't conform to the majority needs to be silenced? Scary.
Remember all those times you have seen gaslighting ideologues saying "nobody is actually calling for [canceling/deleting/censorship]", remember how they couch any argument with "private company can do what it wants". I don't care about Joe Rogan in particular, but you're deluding yourself if you think there isn't some relevance here. A lot of people now suddenly hate Joe, the same way they hate Jordan Peterson, the s…
So, it’s pretty serious. Spotify is paying Joe Rogan to broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. I think it’s okay in this case if people have a sudden change of opinion or a newly formed strong opinion. He didn’t crack an off color joke.
A statement many people appeal to that nobody can substantiate.
That must suck hard for Joe Rogan. He moved his show to their platform and now is getting massively moderated/censored. It's very interesting to see. In America, I always felt like people were very extreme with their freedom of expression, so much that you have so many abuses like the tea party and others that wouldn't exist in other countries that penalize forbidden speech (like denying the holocaust, being racist,…
But seriously, though. He surely knew the stakes when he decided to sign the deal with Spotify, moving from an open podcasting ecosystem to a corporate controlled one.
> So I'm guessing, like a lot of things in the US, private companies are now deciding to figure that part out.
For people who decided to take a giant paycheck from those private companies, yes.
This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.
This is a good analysis of one of his more controversial podcasts. It’s not him presenting “both sides”. He has an agenda and his guests push flat out lies that go unchecked: https://www.wired.com/story/plaintext-joe-rogan-spotify-thou...
I don't like the guy, but I just do what any other reasonable person does and don't listen to him.
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It’s not censorship, at all. This is literally peak Capitalism, something anybody that finds their way to & stays on HN should very much understand. Money is currently talking, Spotify - a company - is reacting to money talking. Any other interpretation of this is… I don’t know, but definitely not correct. In the end, we’re once again shown, money is all that matters.
Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…
That must suck hard for Joe Rogan. He moved his show to their platform and now is getting massively moderated/censored. It's very interesting to see. In America, I always felt like people were very extreme with their freedom of expression, so much that you have so many abuses like the tea party and others that wouldn't exist in other countries that penalize forbidden speech (like denying the holocaust, being racist,…
Remember all those times you have seen gaslighting ideologues saying "nobody is actually calling for [canceling/deleting/censorship]", remember how they couch any argument with "private company can do what it wants". I don't care about Joe Rogan in particular, but you're deluding yourself if you think there isn't some relevance here. A lot of people now suddenly hate Joe, the same way they hate Jordan Peterson, the s…