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Where in the world are Trader Joe’s warehouses? (2015)

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Re: Where in the world are Trader Joe’s warehouses? (2015)

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Trader Joe's presents an interesting punctuation problem. The most common rule, I think, for forming possessives is rule #1 of Strunk and White: "Form the possessive singular of nouns with 's. Follow this rule whatever the final consonant." But Trader Joe's already has an apostrophe. Should the proper writing of this headline should have been... Where in the World are Trader Joe's's Warehouses? Or should it have been…

I have always wondered how Stunk and White would handle Carl's Jr.

Re: Where in the world are Trader Joe’s warehouses? (2015)

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Trader Joe's presents an interesting punctuation problem. The most common rule, I think, for forming possessives is rule #1 of Strunk and White: "Form the possessive singular of nouns with 's. Follow this rule whatever the final consonant." But Trader Joe's already has an apostrophe. Should the proper writing of this headline should have been... Where in the World are Trader Joe's's Warehouses? Or should it have been…

I think there's a rule you don't repeat punctuations like this... one is enough.

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Re: Where in the world are Trader Joe’s warehouses? (2015)

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TJ's is OK but it's no substitute for a full supermarket.

What is a real supermarket?

These days?

Meat counter, extensive selection of frozen food. Good amount of space for non-food items, like over the counter medicine, schools supplies, cleaning supplies, personal care items.

Maybe a pharmacy, maybe not, depending on the store.

In Northern California, it seems Safeway and Lucky are the top ones, and of course Costco. Also 99 Ranch, often called Ranch 99, which is aimed at Asian food customers. There are other smaller chains and individual stores.

Whole Foods, or TJ's. Can I buy a mop, a bottle of Tylenol, and two quarts of motor oil? Not a chance.

Re: Where in the world are Trader Joe’s warehouses? (2015)

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..like Kroger, or Whole Foods? I would say Kroger isn't a real supermarket, it's a junk food market and pharmacopia.

>> I would say Kroger isn't a real supermarket, it's a junk food market and pharmacopia. I cannot fathom how you've come to this conclusion. I've been to 100 Kroger stores in my life and not one fits your description.

Haven't been to Kroger, or as we used to say, Krogers, for quite a while, but I assume what this means is that much of their floor space is taken up by low-quality prepared food and over-the-counter medicines. But that's true of every large grocery in the US.

Re: Where in the world are Trader Joe’s warehouses? (2015)

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Yeah ordering online is sweet in this regard

To me the downside of online ordering is I always feel the need to tip extravagantly to make sure the delivery person doesn't get me rotten tomatoes. It ends up being a lot more expensive than just putting on a mask and trundling down to the market. If I'm in the middle of work I can justify it. I used to enjoy going to the market. (Well, and a lot of other things that aren't fun anymore).

Responding to both comments - here in the US (at least in my city), when you place a grocery order on Instacart it only gets accepted once the shopper chooses to accept it. The higher your tip, the more likely they will accept it faster. The app then shows you a photo of the person who's shopping for you, and they will text you as they shop if something is missing. They then check out, get in their car and drive to your house, and that's the same person who shows up at the door. I definitely think the tip level makes a difference to the quality of selection you get, but also it seems like it would be very rude not to tip well. However, I tip 20% (which is standard in a restaurant) and I know a lot of people who only tip 10% on groceries. There are probably people who tip nothing. No one I talk to is quite sure what to do, because it's "new territory", just like we didn't know what to do once restaurants became take-out only for covid but the workers still had to be there, and weren't making any tips. I decided to just continue to tip 20% even for take-out.

Before I lived in Europe for a few years, I had to be physically restrained from tipping too extravagantly when I would be there.

It's because in the US we don't have much of a social safety network. Tips are like the libertarian version of social welfare. When I was a waiter in New York, for years, the hourly wage from the restaurant was $0.00 + taxes on whatever tips you made. There is no minimum wage for waiters. Waiters bought their own uniforms and their only income is on tips. And we would have Europeans come and drink coffee at a table for a few hours and leave no tip; they didn't understand that we made nothing unless they tipped. As it is now with the delivery services, the pickers and drivers are making the bare minimum; it's incumbent on us to tip them well. We understand that the service doesn't provide enough for them to live.

Re: Where in the world are Trader Joe’s warehouses? (2015)

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TJs is the bomb. But their choice of store placement is definitely cryptic. It always seems to be a little too far for a regular grocery trip; somewhere close to a hip strip, close to a blue collar neighborhood, but not quite walking distance from either. They have a very specific demographic and I'm sure they've been making shrewd property decisions as well. Here in Oregon they have to compete with New Seasons, whic…

If you’re interested in learning about how they choose locations, Freakinomics did a good episode where they cover just that. In short, they look for inexpensive locations that are rising in value, with demographics that have high education but relatively low income. (so, like, English majors.) https://freakonomics.com/podcast/season-11-episode-9/

This is awesome. Thank you.

Re: Where in the world are Trader Joe’s warehouses? (2015)

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TJs is the bomb. But their choice of store placement is definitely cryptic. It always seems to be a little too far for a regular grocery trip; somewhere close to a hip strip, close to a blue collar neighborhood, but not quite walking distance from either. They have a very specific demographic and I'm sure they've been making shrewd property decisions as well. Here in Oregon they have to compete with New Seasons, whic…

I've never had a great experience with GroceryOutlet and don't understand how they operate or even have a franchise model. But my experiences are from the Seattle Area south to Oregon.

In the more rural / exurb parts of Portland metro they do really well. But they just have bizarre things. You can go load up on random bags of chips from a startup that's already out of business, that'll never get made again. And then one day they'll be the only market in the state that has raddichio. You have to be willing to go with it, but it's so cheap you can afford to just buy a bunch of stuff and make it work.

Re: Where in the world are Trader Joe’s warehouses? (2015)

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Interesting bit of history of Aldi, the owner of Trader Joe. The grocery chain was founded by two brothers. They could not get along, so they decided to split the world to “Aldi North” and “Aldi South” chains. Both use the same logo.

They don't use the same logo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldi

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