Facebook loses users for the first time • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by vmception » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:46 AM UTC

JetAlone wrote: post #41

monkeybutton wrote: post #2

Its already frustrating enough having to use Facebook just to look up a restaurant's information, the set times for a concert, or whatever about a local business or event. If all that stuff starts to disappear behind a meta-verse wall, I might just leap off the nearest bridge instead.

You're right, it's dismal. I appeal you make it the furthest away bridge, give yourself plenty of time to reconsider, and maybe find a nice restaurant, concert, business or event along the way.

(Bridges) (Open Now)

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by whiskyant » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:46 AM UTC

mythrwy wrote: post #43

When Facebook first started getting users I tried to access it from a script using Lynx. I don't remember why but it was nothing nefarious, I think I simply wanted to download something for GF periodically. I got a message that said "We aren't cool enough to support your browser". Something about the sarcastic snootiness of the message really angered me and prevented me from ever opening a Facebook account. Later I b…

I'm surprised that message irked you that much, doesn't sound that bad to me. Almost sounds sincere, rather than sarcastic.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by novok » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:46 AM UTC

systemvoltage wrote: post #20

dkackman11 wrote: post #5

This is good news. Facebook has proven itself to be a negative influence on people and countries.

It is just me or there seems to be a strange lack of criticism about TikTok on the same or stricter level than FB. Especially that it is a Chinese company HQ’ed in Beijing. Neither do I ever see discussion about the asymmetry in China’s trade policies with regards to FB/Tiktok. Tiktok enjoys free market access (except India), whereas FB is banned in China just like many other US-based platforms. On the contrary, ther…

Don't worry, tik tok is just new. Wait a few more years and they'll be put through a similar rigamarole, although I don't think it will be as severe as FB. Maybe youtube level?

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by uptown » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:46 AM UTC

ethbr0 wrote: post #49

higgins wrote: post #15

I wonder if they tried to buy wordle... What's the hottest social network they could buy?

TikTok

"...they could buy"

Nope

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by spywaregorilla » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:46 AM UTC

chaostheory wrote: post #50

ProAm wrote: post #10

When the metaverse actually launches they will skyrocket. They were smart to pivot early. Saying the 'metaverse' is on FB right now is similar to people selling acres on the Moon before anyone landed. FB is planting an imaginary flag on the 'metaverse' hoping they can technically catch up to their claims and capitalize on it.

I'm long on Meta as well and I really like the Quest (2), but the metaverse already had a soft launch. What Meta has been able to accomplish so far is impressive, but it's still not enough. What's the status quo with VR problems? - Price: This was fixed with Quest 2 - Complexity: This was also fixed with Quest. - Socially acceptable: Nope. Even when you remove the issue of the toxicity surrounding Facebook's brand, m…

VR is gimmicky, like the Wii. Its full of worlds with great freedom of movement that are designed to hide the fact that you have very limited freedom of movement.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by dustintrex » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:47 AM UTC

GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

Facebook has been primarily displaced by Tiktok, which is considerably more addictive than FB. It's like zonking out in front of cable TV in the olden days, if the cable TV had access to an essentially unlimited content library of short-form dopamine hits, was capable of determining exactly what you like, and showing you exactly that forever.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by fouc » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:47 AM UTC

GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

Back in the good ole days when people drank coffee after dinner.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by hailwren » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:47 AM UTC

spywaregorilla wrote: post #75

GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

> Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 This one interested me. We're at a local maximum in terms of coffee consumption in recent years. After WWII coffee fell off in popularity and due to the substitute of carbonated soft drinks. Most likely in simplest terms it was a cheaper energy drink for the poor.

Right, if anything -- coffee consumption has only gone down because we've moved on to more efficient stimulants. Either higher concentration/lower cost artificial substitutes or prescription drugs.

Hardly the best example of America getting over an addiction.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by tr33house » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:47 AM UTC

Victerius wrote: post #4

> Daily active users dropped from 1.93 billion to 1.92 billion, with the drop coming from Africa and Latin America.

Isn't it suspicious that the losses conveniently happened in Africa and Latin America which contribute to a smallest share of their revenue

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by Damogran6 » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 1:48 AM UTC

I went back to my forums, find myself easily disengaging from Reddit (around the election, Reddit was nothing but stress), Check Twitter maybe 10 minutes a week, go to Instagram once a week because my kid posts his artwork there.

But in general, ALL of the sticky sites aren’t…sticky anymore. I took 2 weeks off at the worst of it and it did an amazing job of breaking the feedback loop.

Facebook tried to take over forums and mailing lists, their market was full of scams (which had me going round and round with Paypal and the bank when ‘Sally’ selling an iPad from Massachusetts sent a receipt with an email from a Guy in Turkey.

Then they started poking around with VR and Meta and man, I really don’t want to use this headset if I’m forced to log into Facebook and you’ve got 6 outward facing cameras, Zuckerberg.

Good. Can’t come soon enough.