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Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2021 Results

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Google Cloud revenue is only up 30% YoY, which seems really low considering the marketing and the focus on it (and the growth of the competitors).

Not sure if this is really much different, but superficially it looks like its up ~45% (5.5 billion from 3.8)

To put that into perspective - if the rate continues for 4 years (doesn't seem that unbelievable) - revenue would be ~$24Bn - which is close to FB currently...

Re: Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2021 Results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

GCP is a profit center and diversifies the business, why would Alphabet deprecate it?

According to top comment it loses money? > Lost $890m this quarter compared to $1.2B Q4 2020

It's growing 45% per year. In 3 years - the profits of Cloud alone could be bigger than all but a few companies in the world.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One perspective: Roughly 10c of revenue for every person on the planet every day.

Maybe "Alphabet's revenue this quarter was about 3% of San Francisco's real estate."

Maybe "Alphabet's revenue this quarter was a million times my annual salary"

- did not calculate, just saying :)

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Really amazing how much money they keep squeezing out search But it's basically impossible to escape the ads on it these days, so it's not surprising.

>t it's basically impossible to escape the ads on it these days, so it's not surprising ublock origin seems to do fine. Unless you are suggesting that the ad-ladden SEO'd pages are their real product?

Can you use ublock when searching on android or iphone?

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I wonder if there is a psychological effect that could push more stock growth?

Increased liquidity. Also option trading is usually in 100 share units, meaning retail investors can now afford more options (e.g. $15,000 vs $300,000 a unit).

Anecdote warning: This is one reason I have not been able to buy/sell google options. (I did around Brexit when google was 650 or so, but not since). Even a single contract is a massive risk for a layman portfolio like mine. 1/20 will imply I will definitely attempt to trade this.

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I’m wondering if growth is just synthetic at this point. They can just add more ads regardless of user growth. There has been a noticeable increase in ads across all their products.

Growth is primarily due to demand - by advertisers, not the users. Online ad spending increased during the pandemic and is expected to continue to grow throughout this decade. Advertisers flush with cash are looking to spend it online. And google, fb, etc are more than happy to oblige. Google is simply increasing the supply ( ads ) to meet the demand ( advertisers ). This sadly means we'll be seeing more and more ads…

> Growth is primarily due to demand - by advertisers, not the users.

It is actually both, from q3 10k:

Paid clicks change: 24% Cost-per-click change: 17%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I'm at Amazon but not in AWS Fair, I was thinking of this in the non-cloud perspective where efficiency improvements can push you to upgrade even if the hardware still works. In cloud provider mode it makes sense to keep it around as long as it still works and it's not too annoying to run. It doesn't really matter how (in)efficient the hardware is because you set the pricing to keep it profitable as long…

It's not that simple. Every rack that is sitting there is an opportunity cost for another efficient or more profitable rack. So, there has to be smart calculation to make the keep/upgrade decision

Disclaimer: Previously worked at Amazon but not AWS.

You would typically be right. However, the saying as of 2013 was "At any given second there is always at-least one new computer being plugged in, to support S3's growth."

> Every rack that is sitting there is an opportunity cost for another efficient or more profitable rack.

If AWS wasn't already supply side constrained on new hardware to fill new AWS data centers, you would be correct. However, they do not yet need to re-use those old racks, instead they are accelerating how many new racks they are building.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>t it's basically impossible to escape the ads on it these days, so it's not surprising ublock origin seems to do fine. Unless you are suggesting that the ad-ladden SEO'd pages are their real product?

Can you use ublock when searching on android or iphone?

uBlock works with Firefox's mobile browser

Re: Alphabet Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2021 Results

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I’m wondering if growth is just synthetic at this point. They can just add more ads regardless of user growth. There has been a noticeable increase in ads across all their products.

Growth is primarily due to demand - by advertisers, not the users. Online ad spending increased during the pandemic and is expected to continue to grow throughout this decade. Advertisers flush with cash are looking to spend it online. And google, fb, etc are more than happy to oblige. Google is simply increasing the supply ( ads ) to meet the demand ( advertisers ). This sadly means we'll be seeing more and more ads…

Also, the margins are getting better, through more ad sales and less costs (price per ad in a super rudimentary way is higher)

see riku comment for more

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