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The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

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Re: The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

#81

This is a beautiful example of why people shouldn't be too quick to tag cultural borrowings as "appropriation." They often result in a back-and-forth cross-pollination that bears novel hybrid fruit we can all enjoy.

QuestionCopyright.org has the same observation. They made a nice music video to further spread the idea, how "all creative work builds on what came before": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcvd5JZkUXY

Re: The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

#83

There's no decent reggae after the early 1980s, apart from UB40 knock off bands. Give me the Pioneers, Dave and Ansel Collins or Justin Hinds any day.

Presumably plenty of Jamaicans (and others) would disagree, but I do personally like the sound of the 70s recordings best, especially the dubs, The Revolutionaries, Roots Radics, etc. Newer reggae has a lot of newer pop in it, auto-tune, plastic-y production.

It was never meant to stay the same, the old riddim culture went on for a long period without change... New dancehall is a bit too soft for me as well, I like ragga most, but I do miss the classic "red light" love song era... I'm working to remix some of the classics myself, and to create new vibes (without using auto tune).

There are many artists working low key on different sounds, but right now the industry is pushing the bubble-gum-gangster sound that is most popular right now... You've got to search real deep on YouTube for the best stuff.

Re: The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

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post #76

For those who don't know, "Riddim is the Jamaican Patois pronunciation of the English word 'rhythm'. In the context of reggae and dancehall it refers to the instrumental accompaniment to a song and is synonymous with the rhythm section... A given riddim, if popular, may be used in dozens—or even hundreds—of songs, not only in recordings but also in live performances." The actual riddim sounds completely uninteresting…

> The actual riddim sounds completely uninteresting to my American ears ok, let me try to make it more interesting. you seem to think riddim is something from the past. you may remember the music from "run the world" by Beyonce. that riddim is called "pon de floor" riddim. it was created by diplo. (warning nsfw video). riddim is essentially coding patterns for music. since each riddim has a name it creates a DSL that…

> another interesting aspect is it's free from intellectual property. it makes for a good example of the impact of free culture on creativity.

You better believe Diplo got paid by Beyonce to use Pon De Floor in a track.

Re: The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

#86

There's no decent reggae after the early 1980s, apart from UB40 knock off bands. Give me the Pioneers, Dave and Ansel Collins or Justin Hinds any day.

I love the French digital dub scene for one, Pupajim, Panda dub, Dubamix, Mayd Hubb all put out fantastic pieces, like this one for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgjvtib-Xi0

Re: The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

#87

I really love the world of reggae and dancehall. The way riddims are covered and updated and repurposed and remade over and over in different styles by different artists. It feels natural and organic. Human creativity building on and growing what came before.

The entirety of the remix culture is just something else. People turning something existing into something else, sometimes completely changing it up. For one I loved Burial's Archangel, for its haunting vocals, only to learn later that it's sampled from a (to me) unremarkable r&b song.

Re: The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

#88
post #11

This is the rare kind of advertorial that's well worth reading. From the same author (the editor of the site): Tough and Timeless: Ibe Kikuo and the Development of the [Casio] G-Shock https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g01192/tough-and-time... .... Background on nippon.com: The site has its background in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Echo which was funded by Japan's Foreign Affairs Ministry. Later on it was…

And just in case it is lost on some people, Nippon is one of the possible pronunciations for Japan (日本) in Japanese. The other is Nihon. No, the Japanese have no consensus on the name of their own country.

Re: The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

#89
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember not getting dubstep (also derived from dub before it’s export to the US and commercialization) because I was listening to it on my PC speakers. When I finally played it through my hifi it was like a whole sonic landscape suddenly appeared and only then did I finally get it.

Quick note to those that were potentially triggered when they read "dubstep"... Early dubstep was based on two-step and garage music, while at the same time heavily based on dub and reggae. Digital Mystikz - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9H3i0T1iN4 Spaceape - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfyRjyKj05I Goth Trad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d12dJbE_xxw Listen to some of the early dubstep and you'll start to u…

Hehe, I remember telling an American friend about 10 years ago that I was really into dubstep at that time. She was appalled and couldn't understand why a somewhat decent person like myself could listen to that kind of music. Much later, it dawned on me that she was thinking of US bro-step like Skrillex, while I in fact was listening to "UK Bass Music" like Benga and Skream and Digital Mystikz and Loefah.

Re: The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

#90
post #44

For people wondering "what's the sleng teng riddim?" here's some examples: Original "under mi sleng teng" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjw7m-BKmQ8 One of my favorites, "The Don" by peter metro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnZuTOH2zoc 90 minute sleng teng mix (here's a bunch): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLKc61dVWQ related: Under mi sensi (doesn't actually use sleng teng riddim but it's a riff on the sleng…

One of the YouTube comments makes an interesting observation that this is an entirely digital rhythm.

I like to tell people that reggae artists (more specifically dub artists) created electronic music. I don’t know if it’s entirely true, but there is some evidence to suggest this.
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