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Re: Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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Post by ncmncm »

protomyth wrote: post #71
tra3 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There’s really no good reason to stick your neck out at a dysfunctional place I'm reading "The Pentagon Wars" [0], about how US Military used to develop weapon systems in the 70s and 80s; here's an anecdote from the book: > General Gavin recounted how he had to bury fifty young men near the village of Gela, Sicily, in 1943.1 The men had pieces of their own bazookas ground into their bodies by the German tanks they…

Study the development of American torpedoes for WWII as further reading. The Bureau of Ordnance has a lot of American blood on its hands.

On the other hand, they saved many Japanese lives. For a while, anyway.

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marcosdumay wrote: post #35
franklampard wrote: post #16

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As an engineer, one would want to solve the first kind but leave the second kind to MBAs

That's their nominal task, and nominally why they make big bucks. But have you ever witnessed the MBAs solving it? I haven't. So I'd recommend to avoid the organizations with the second kinds of problems, so that you can focus on the first, and not even think about the MBAs. Or, alternatively, if you manage to find a way to do it, get the task for yourself and make the big bucks.

There is no problem an MBA cannot make radically worse.

MBAs gave us the 737-MAX.

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Post by dkarl »

You won't learn anything from working in a dysfunctional organization that will come in handy in high-functioning organizations, except how to empathize with dysfunctional people. That one person who just won't share information, thinks every question is a trap, and won't do anything for someone outside their team without management signing in triplicate? You'll have a better shot at knowing what's in their head and maybe what to say to reassure them.

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Post by fsckboy »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #50
jancsika wrote: post #15

> People who want to study earthquakes need to go where there are fault lines. People who want to solve hard problems need to go where those problems live. People who want to study earthquakes don't get paid by the earthquakes. Author works for a defense contractor. I'd need a ton of evidence that this particular defense contractor has the goal of doing something inherently safe with AI before I'd read the author's a…

People who want to study earthquakes will keep a distance and model and measure remotely. The idea that seismologists actually want to experience massive destruction personally is bizarre, and completely wrong.

well, volcanologist Robert Landsburg was killed studying Mt St Helens

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/last-moments-bef...

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