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I’m baffled how people miss this even if it’s the mission statement of Satoshi himself: Bitcoin is a tool to prevent wealth re-distribution. It’s whole idea is to ensure that the accumulated wealth is preserved. In 2008 it was against the government bailing out the failed banks but it’s also against any government interventions, including easing the wealth inequality. In essence, the idea is that if a teenager in 201…
The difference being that BTC has no utility that people depend on. They can refuse to buy the BTC from the now-GenZer or even the Winklevoss twins if they'd rather have food or shelter or a chanel bag rather than BTC. The real world phenomenon that this corresponds to is consumer price inflation or asset price inflation (assuming your asset is production capacity and the medium of exchange is BTC) Being a landlord,…
It's time for an inequality index for cryptocurrencies distribution
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#82A lot of those accounts are run by exchanges. So we don’t and can’t know true distribution. Unless Coinbase and binance release stats on their customers
And even then, I'd argue there's a lot of incentive to lie about it.
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#83> This concentration not only risks to threaten blockchain's own premises, but also exposes minor investors to risk of whales who lead the market and can easily speculate on prices since they can influence the price trends The problem is that you can only associate value with a wallet, not an individual, and even that doesn't really make the market any safer; it just further exposes how terrible cryptocurrency is as…
If you think of gold as a speculative accounting system then it really is just a very resource inefficient way of book keeping. Digging up gold and going to war for gold mines makes you poorer, not richer. Yet people believe that this system is infallible.
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lack of any kind of control Multiple choice question: Which of the following groups have lots of control over BTC? A. BTC Core Developers B. BTC Exchanges C. Credit Card Processors/ACH Entities/Payment apps that allow people to buy BTC from fiat without exchanging physical cash D. BTC Miners E. Any judge in the country that can order you to hand over your BTC just like he/she can order you to dig up the cash he/she s…
Do you have any examples of any of the parties you listed successfully exercising their power against the protocol? Sure anyone can affect anything but how did any of them selfishly affect the fundamental properties of the protocol?
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The bigger problem is that addresses are not measures of people. A lot of addresses are purposely generated as throwaway accounts, never to be used again. A single person may have or use dozens of wallets. Or a single wallet may be used by a large exchange which represents thousands of depositors.
So much for Bitcoin’s vaunted decentralization. In fact the inequality is probably far more pronounced. Since multiple accounts can belong to one organizatipn - but not the other way around :) PS: if a bitcoin wallet belongs to one centralized exchange, it’s still under centralized control!
If you're looking for idealistic purity, and assume it's worthless if unattained, you're wrong.
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#86> 95% of Bitcoin is owned by 2% of accounts The problem is, how do you measure this reliably? I'd wager that a large chunk of 95% of Bitcoin is either irrevocably lost or owned by Satoshi (estimate is at "between 750,000 and 1,100,000 bitcoin" -- and arguably these TXs will never be spent). Simply put, there's no way to differentiate between coins that are just sitting there unspent and coins which no one can access…
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People give sales pitches for lots of things. You don't have to listen to them. > Are you sure about this? Whether I'm sure or not... I think everyone should be given the choice.
> People give sales pitches for lots of things. You don't have to listen to them. No, but when something has completely failed to live up to the sales pitch and then people try to pretend they'd never made those claims, it's important to remember that track record when deciding whether to trust the new claims. This is especially true in the case of cryptocurrencies which have no value other than social consensus beca…
If someone keeps changing their claims or is otherwise acting scummy, just ignore them. There are shysters in every industry.
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#88I think a thought spent on crypto is a thought wasted.
I think this comment is a waste under its own assertion. No?
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You’ll need evidence for that, and a way to disambiguate Bitcoin’s performance as an inflation hedge from the speculative bubble. > it did a 5,000,000x plus return in that time Then it is self evidently not an inflation hedge.
BTC's monetary policy makes it an inflation hedge regardless of what humans are doing with it, the cycles just take 4 years to play out. The evidence is literally in the code. No need to complicate things, just focus on 2 key questions... 1. Is the BTC supply inflation rate lower than the US dollar’s (and other fiat currencies)? 2. Will it be lower for the forseeable future? That will give you the simple answer you a…
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#90Wallets != people. Without proof of personhood, you never know the distribution.
This right here. Everybody running and screaming about the OP statistic have 0 knowledge how bitcoin works or purposefully spreading false information. It's like the elections being stolen, or anti-vax propaganda or whatever other idiocy being spread on FB on any given moment.
>95% of Bitcoin is owned by 2%
This is just the lower limit on the concentration of wealth in Bitcoin, found from onchain data. Since people can have multiple addresses it is possible that the 2% actually control 97% or even more of btc supply